Suicide Prevention, Toxic Environments, and the Phone Call That Saved a Marine: Lee Stuckey

Suicide Prevention, Toxic Environments, and the Phone Call That Saved a Marine: Lee Stuckey

Author: Joe De Sena July 22, 2026 Duration: 23:31
A Marine officer, professional MMA fighter, and jiu-jitsu practitioner came home from his third combat deployment in Mosul and sat down at a table with a loaded Glock. His mother called his phone at the exact second he began to pull the trigger.
 
Joe De Sena sits down with Lee Stuckey, founder of America's Heroes Enjoying Recreation Outdoors (AHERO), a nonprofit that has served over 13,000 veterans and stopped more than 600 suicides in 16 years. Lee breaks down how he rebuilt after nearly taking his own life, why he swapped every toxic relationship in his circle for someone healthy, and how a four-pillar framework became the structure that holds his life together.

Things You Will Learn:
  1. Why controlling your environment and your circle changes your trajectory faster than willpower alone.
  2. The four-pillar framework Lee Stuckey uses to audit his physical, financial, emotional, and spiritual health every week.
  3. What a one-for-one relationship swap looks like and why it forces accountability into your daily life.

Tools & Frameworks Covered:

  1. One-for-One Swap: Remove one parasitic or toxic relationship and deliberately replace it with someone who helps you grow across four pillars.
  2. Four-Pillar Weekly Audit: Physical, financial, emotional, spiritual. Sit down weekly with your family or team and assess each one. Get 1% better daily with a deliberate plan.
  3. CEO Family Meeting: Block your calendar for family first. Let your spouse fill priority dates before anyone else gets access. Structure your household like a mission.
 
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro: Marine, MMA fighter, and the man behind A Hero
01:35 Military school, Staff Sergeant Sutton, and enlisting as a machine gunner
04:24 How Lee reconciled faith with combat
06:12 Why suicide permanently destroys the family left behind
09:23 Controlling your environment: the VA nurse and the one-for-one swap
12:15 Jiu-jitsu mat or the bar
13:57 Third deployment, a loaded Glock, and the phone call that stopped the trigger
18:31 AHERO Records: veterans turning trauma into three-minute songs
20:21 The four-pillar framework and CEO family meetings
22:45 How to find A Hero and get involved

Lee Stuckey went from a mischievous kid facing juvenile detention to a Marine infantry machine gunner, commissioned officer, professional MMA fighter, and Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt under Carlos Machado. After three combat deployments, he came home carrying injuries, insomnia, and alcohol dependence that nearly ended his life.
 
In August 2009, a phone call from his mother stopped him at the moment he began pulling the trigger. That night became the foundation of AHERO America's Heroes Enjoying Recreation Outdoors a nonprofit that has served over 13,000 veterans, stopped more than 600 suicides, placed 62 people into treatment, and launched AHERO Records, a label where veterans turn trauma into songs with Grammy-winning songwriters.
 
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Joe De Sena, the founder of Spartan Race and a New York Times best-selling author, believes the most rewarding path is rarely the easy one. In his The Hard Way With Joe De Sena podcast, that philosophy comes to life through raw, unscripted conversations. Joe travels the globe, sitting down with a diverse array of guests-from elite athletes and pioneering entrepreneurs to acclaimed authors and visionary CEOs-to dig for the unvarnished truths about resilience and achievement. These aren't just interviews; they're deep dives into the mental frameworks and physical disciplines that define a Spartan mindset. You'll hear stories that challenge conventional wisdom, practical advice forged through real struggle, and surprising moments of humor that come from shared experience. Each episode is designed to provide tangible tools for improving your health, fitness, and overall approach to life's obstacles. By bringing together this panel of extraordinary thinkers and doers, the podcast creates a unique space where the secrets to success in business, wellness, and personal growth are examined without shortcuts. Tune in for a dose of motivation that’s as actionable as it is inspiring.
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