Who's In Charge? Gen. Mark Hertling Wants to Know

Who's In Charge? Gen. Mark Hertling Wants to Know

Author: The One Country Project January 14, 2026 Duration: 50:19

In this episode of The Hot Dish,  Heidi engages in a compelling conversation with retired General Mark Hertling. The discussion covers a wide range of topics, including the complexities of U.S. military operations, foreign policy, and the implications of regime change. 

General Hertling shares insights from his experiences in Iraq and his views on the recent U.S. incursion into Venezuela. He specifically addresses his concerns about the seeming lack of any single individual within the U.S. government who is responsible for the aftermath in Venezuela.

The conversation also touches on the role of the Venezuelan military, the global ramifications of U.S. actions, and the importance of clear leadership in military operations. 

Additionally, General Hertling discusses his new book, "If I Don't Return: a Father's Wartime Journal," which offers a personal perspective on military service and its impact on families. (You can pre-order a signed copy here: https://www.ballastbooks.com/ballast-bookstore/if-i-dont-return.)

The Hot Dish is brought to you by the One Country Project. To learn more, visit OneCountryProject.org, or find us on Substack (Onecountryproject.substack.com), and on YouTube, Bluesky, and Facebook (@onecountryproject). 

  • (00:00) - Introduction to the Conversation with General Hurtling
  • (00:00) - Chapter 2
  • (00:00) - Introduction and Overview
  • (00:13) - Introduction to the Conversation with General Hurtlin
  • (01:51) - Military Insights and Foreign Policy
  • (05:59) - Oil Economy and Venezuela
  • (10:40) - Latin America and Global Implications
  • (21:11) - The Insurrection Act and Domestic Concerns
  • (27:22) - Personal Stories and Reflections
  • (41:40) - Conclusion and Final Thoughts
  • (50:03) - OCP-YouTube-EndScreen.mp4

Heidi Heitkamp, a former U.S. Senator, and her brother Joel, a longtime Midwest radio host, bring a unique perspective to the table in their podcast The Hot Dish. Their dynamic is the engine here-a blend of deep policy knowledge from the halls of Congress and grounded, everyday insight from community radio, all filtered through the familiar and often humorous lens of sibling debate. They sit down with a range of guests, from national newsmakers and elected officials to local policymakers, focusing squarely on the ideas and actions that impact rural communities across America. These aren't dry lectures; they're animated discussions that dig into practical solutions for real challenges, from economic opportunities to infrastructure. Produced by The One Country Project, the conversation on this podcast is as informative as it is engaging, often punctuated by the kind of lively back-and-forth that only a brother and sister can provide. You'll come for the insightful analysis on politics and news, but you'll stay for the authentic and enlightening dialogue that makes complex issues relatable. Each episode serves up a hearty mix of substance and personality, offering listeners a fresh take on the stories that shape the heart of the country.
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