Pause Before You Discipline: NLRB Turns Against Civility in Lion Elastomers Decision

Pause Before You Discipline: NLRB Turns Against Civility in Lion Elastomers Decision

Author: Tom Godar June 6, 2023 Duration: 12:04
Host Tom Godar and his guest Rufino Gaytán tackle the newly expanded protections offered employees under the National Labor Relations Board’s Lion Elastomers decision, published May 1, 2023. As part of the ping-pong effect of a Biden-appointed Board following a Trump-appointed Board following an Obama-appointed Board, employee protections for violations of employer’s policies that were previously available have been restored. This allows employee behavior in the context of concerted activities, such as shouting racial epithets, or engaging in coarse and even potentially threatening conduct, to be excused as part of the real world of labor relations as it is seen on picket lines or in other situations of conflict. This overruled the 2020 General Motors decision which held that the Board must look to employer intent and good faith in applying employer policies or standards regarding conduct, even if it was also related to National Labor Relations Act. That decision had attacked the standards set forth in Cooper Tire and other decisions; however, the Lion Elastomers decision makes it much more difficult for employers to balance the responsibility to address behavior in the workplace with the rights of employees to engage in concerted activities challenging the employer, its employees, or policies. Mr. Gaytán acknowledges that while General Counsel Abruzzo suggests that there is no inherent conflict with this position, and enforcement of employee rights to be free from threatening behavior or a hostile workplace, the analytical framework to make decisions which balance these rights is hardly easy to apply. In episode two of this podcast, Tom and Rufino continue their discussion and look at the potential impact upon those employers who do not have union-represented employees. They also discuss some of the practical implications of balancing the newly articulated rights of employees and the overall responsibility of employers to protect all of the employees in the workplace from improper conduct. Join us soon for part two of the Labor Law Insider.

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