Jean Trounstine (Audio); How Literature Transforms Women Behind Bars

Jean Trounstine (Audio); How Literature Transforms Women Behind Bars

Author: Podcasters David Jones & Dr Naomi Murphy May 6, 2026 Duration: 55:26
  Join Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones as they delve into the transformative power of literature within the criminal justice system, through the inspiring insights of Jean Trounstine. An author, activist, and educator, Jean shares her decades of work supporting incarcerated women, the arts behind bars, and her journey creating impactful stories that challenge perceptions of justice and rehabilitation. Her first novel, 'Sounds like trouble to me' is released on 12th May. In this episode, we cover: Jean’s personal journey into prison education and theatre The role of arts and literature in fostering rehabilitation Differences between the US and England in prison programming The impact of classic literature, including Shakespeare, behind bars The significance of the Me Too movement in prison reform The process of researching and ensuring authenticity in her writing How storytelling can reveal the humanity of incarcerated women The community and bonds formed among women in prison Challenges and opportunities in addressing sensitive topics like abuse and trauma Jean’s current projects and future plans for her writing Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Jean Trounstine and her work in prison theatre02:06 - How literature and theatre started shaping her activism04:22 - The unique setting of Framingham Women’s Prison and its history05:50 - The decline in prison arts programs in the US06:42 - Comparing approaches to prison arts in England and the US08:33 - Plans to bring Shakespeare to women in prison10:02 - The importance of exposing prisoners to classical texts12:03 - Jean’s pioneering work directing Shakespeare in prison worldwide13:46 - Her journey from memoir to fiction with her novel “Sounds Like Trouble to Me”15:20 - True stories inspiring her novel16:18 - The uprising at Dublin’s federal prison and its influence on her work17:39 - The development of her characters inspired by real women19:26 - Building authenticity for prison-related details and legal accuracy22:03 - The storytelling process and discovering the narrative organically24:14 - The message of hope and resilience in her book, “Sounds Like Trouble to Me”25:52 - Addressing abuse, trauma, and societal myths about women in prison29:49 - The impact of her work on understanding and rethinking incarceration33:07 - The significance of the Me Too movement in her narratives37:42 - The importance of friendship and solidarity among women in prison40:54 - Personal stories that highlight vulnerability and connection43:56 - The influence of risk-taking and building trust through theatre48:48 - The “Changing Life Through Literature” program and its success54:22 - Upcoming projects and the future of Jean’s writing and activism

Behind the high walls and within systems designed to contain, there exists a complex world of human endurance. The Locked up Living Podcast: Surviving and thriving in prisons and other challenging environments explores this terrain, guided by the decades of combined experience of hosts David Jones and Dr. Naomi Murphy. This isn't a true-crime series, but a deep dive into the psychological and emotional fabric of life and work in places that test resilience to its limit. Conversations move beyond sensational headlines to examine the real, often unspoken costs and profound insights born in these settings. You'll hear about the impact on staff confronting serious offences daily, the mechanisms of shame and fear, and the practical strategies for preventing burnout and compassion fatigue. The scope extends to any organisation or industry where adversity is a constant, making this podcast a unique resource for understanding human psychology under pressure. Each episode offers a blend of personal narrative, professional expertise, and thoughtful analysis, providing listeners with a rare perspective on how people not only survive but can find ways to thrive within extraordinarily challenging environments. Join Jones and Murphy for these essential, human-centered discussions.
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