June 4, 2025 ~ Lucy Ann Lance talks with Psychotherapist Frank Rubino for this week's On The Couch! They discuss the vandalism at the University of Michigan Arboretum’s peony garden by pro-Palestinian protesters. Rubino explores the psychological motivations behind such acts, linking them to a broader issue of manipulated virtue and potential mental illness. He also critiques the university’s initial tolerance of protests and suggests a firmer stance, including legal action against perpetrators.