Episode 303 - What Are We Supposed to Say? - The Murder of Joey Carnot

Episode 303 - What Are We Supposed to Say? - The Murder of Joey Carnot

Author: Grip Tape February 2, 2026 Duration: 48:53

In the summer of 2024, a woman retreats into isolation, filling notebooks with carefully written details and rehearsing every line until it feels unshakable. To anyone watching, it looks like preparation. Discipline. Control.

But what she is preparing for has nothing to do with school.

When police are called to a Wisconsin apartment late one humid night, the story they’re given seems simple enough. Yet as investigators begin to listen closely, timelines shift, memories fracture, and the same brief window of time splinters into conflicting versions of the truth.

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Research
& Writing:
Ryan Deininger

Editing:
Aiden Wolf

Sources:
WI v. Samantha Krebs, Days 1 - 4 | Kiss & Kill Murder Trial
LIVE: WI v. Samantha Krebs, Day 4 | Kiss & Kill Murder Trial
Samantha Krebs' Call With Police: 'Is He (Joey Carnot) Okay?'
LIVE: WI v. Samantha Krebs, Day 5 
LIVE: WI v. Samantha Krebs, Day 6
LIVE: WI v. Samantha Krebs, Day 7
Court Tv Trial Recap
Outagamie County jury convicts Samantha Krebs
Prosecution says Samantha Krebs' suicide story is 'full of holes'
Samantha Krebs' defense claims boyfriend's injuries were self-inflicted
Appleton police investigating suspicious death of man on North Park Drive Lane
Appleton woman charged with homicide after boyfriend is stabbed
Police refer homicide charge against Appleton woman
Handwritten notes offer ‘play-by-play’ of boyfriend’s murder, police say 
Krebs pleads not guilty to killing her boyfriend
$1 million bond set for woman
Police: Woman killed boyfriend, kissed him and apologized before leaving
Appleton woman charged with fatally stabbing boyfriend
Woman 'kissed' dying boyfriend and begged friend to ' tell the police he stabbed himself'
Criminal Complaint
Joey Carnot Obituary


Hosted by Grip Tape, The Minds of Madness-True Crime Stories is a documentary series that explores the darker corners of human behavior. This podcast goes beyond the basic facts of a case, aiming to understand the circumstances and psychology that lead to extraordinary crimes. Each episode is a deep, narrative dive into a single story, built from court documents, interviews, and reported accounts. The focus is on the human element-the lives altered, the communities shattered, and the often-complex motivations behind the acts. You’ll find no sensationalism here, only a sober and meticulously researched examination of events that challenge our understanding of society and culture. Listening to this podcast feels like engaging with a thorough, long-form piece of journalism, where the pacing allows for reflection and the details paint a complete, if unsettling, picture. It’s for those who seek more than a headline, offering a respectful yet unflinching look at the realities of true crime. The production emphasizes clarity and depth, making complex legal and emotional trajectories accessible. By focusing on the story from multiple angles, The Minds of Madness provides a compelling and thoughtful audio experience that lingers with you, prompting questions about justice, fate, and the fragile lines we all navigate.
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