All Systems Brough - VESPER.5

All Systems Brough - VESPER.5

Author: The Secret Lives of Games June 2, 2026 Duration: 1:58:52

We're joined by Izzy Kestrel (Funomena, No Goblin, A Good Videogame) and Alfredo Barraza (Riot Games) to discuss VESPER.5; a durational, tile-based exploration game. It's the sixth installment in our yearlong special series exploring the work of Michael Brough: All Systems Brough.

This episode: VESPER.5

Next episode: Become a Great Artist

Audio edited by Dylan Shumway.


Discussed in this episode:

868-BACK (Out now!! Go buy it!!)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3304110/868BACK/ 
https://finji.itch.io/868-back 

Michael Brough's Website
https://www.smestorp.com/ 

All Systems Brough - A Chat with Michael
https://secretlives.games/website/all-systems-brough-a-chat-with-michael 

VESPER.5
http://mightyvision.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/vesper5.html 

THE LONGING
https://store.steampowered.com/app/893850/THE_LONGING/ 

Road to the IGF: Michael Brough's VESPER.5 (Article about GDC showcase of VESPER.5)
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/design/road-to-the-igf-michael-brough-s-i-vesper-5-i- 

Super Friendship Club VESPER.5 Forum
https://web.archive.org/web/20160407200028/http://superfriendshipclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=618 

Meaning through repetition (reflection on releasing VESPER.5)
https://mightyvision.blogspot.com/2012/08/meaning-through-repetition.html 

GDC 2013 - Interview with Michael Brough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocqSV6f137M 

Pippin Barr on VESPER.5
https://web.archive.org/web/20170711093026/http://www.pippinbarr.com/2012/08/14/you-should-play-vesper-5/ 

Michael Brouge's VESPER.6 by Joel Goodwin
https://www.electrondance.com/michael-brouges-vesper-6/

Gardens of Time: Design Problem Solving
https://www.glorioustrainwrecks.com/node/2931 

Steve Reich - Section I (Slowed Down 800%) - Ambient / Minimalism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3AMpfdbc7U 

EXPERIMENT 12 Anthology
https://www.geocities.ws/experimenttwelve/ 

145: Addressing Memory with Plunderludics 
https://secretlives.games/145-addressing-memory-with-plunderludics 

i heard you like videogames
https://www.glorioustrainwrecks.com/node/2366 

scarfmemory
https://www.smestorp.com/scarfmemory.html 

Post-Future Vagabond
https://mightyvision.blogspot.com/2013/11/post-future-vagabond.html 

Bending the River
https://www.metabolicstudio.org/653 

The Old Timey Computer Show
https://otcs.minuspoint.com/ 

Inferno by Boards of Canada
https://boardsofcanada.bandcamp.com/album/inferno 

imagineNATIVE Festival
https://imaginenative.org/

STAY SHARP // Rogue Skin Reveal Trailer - VALORANT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1u1kUdDOys 

Rushing Beat Trilogy
https://www.chronocrash.com/forum/threads/rushing-beat-trilogy.5208/ 

THE GAME DESIGN CHALLENGE: The Thirty-Year Game
https://www.gdcvault.com/play/1023124/THE-GAME-DESIGN-CHALLENGE-The 

 


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