You've felt it. Someone leaves the room and you feel weirdly exhausted. Or you ignored a gut feeling and paid for it later. This episode names what's actually happening, and gives you a practical system to deal with it. Episode Overview If you've ever left a conversation feeling like something was stolen from you, or spent years second-guessing whether your instincts were real or just anxiety in a costume, Lisa Campion is here to hand you a very grounded toolkit.
Lisa is a Reiki master teacher, psychic counselor, author, and podcast host with over 30 years of experience working with empaths, healers, and people who are psychically open but have no idea what to do about it. She doesn't ask you to believe anything. She just shows you how the operating system works.
In this conversation, Will and Karen sit down with Lisa to unpack energy vampires, psychic self-defense, and one of the most useful distinctions in modern spirituality; the difference between your intuition and your anxiety. Turns out, one of them has been running the show, and it probably isn't the one you'd want.
What You'll Take Away- Energy vampires are real, and most of them don't know they're doing it. Lisa breaks down the two distinct types, including the one that's far more common than the predatory kind, and explains why highly sensitive people are disproportionately in their orbit.
- There's a name for what you've been experiencing. If you absorb other people's moods, pain, or anxiety as if they were your own, Lisa explains what that actually is, why it happens, and why it can be a profound gift once you learn to manage it.
- Psychic self-defense isn't a Marvel movie concept. Lisa maps out a practical framework for protecting your energy, including what she calls "spiritual kung fu" for empaths who keep saying yes when they mean no.
- Intuition and anxiety feel almost identical. but only one of them is telling the truth. Lisa explains the neurological reason for this, and gives you a simple test to tell the difference before you override the right signal again.
- You're more psychic than you think. Lisa shares a specific, low-effort journaling practice that will show you, within weeks, just how often your intuition has been accurate while you weren't paying attention.
- The "army of healers" concept. This isn't motivational-poster talk. Lisa explains what a world looks like when empathic, intuitive people stop running on empty and actually show up for themselves and others.
Listen Because This episode is for anyone who has ever felt "too much," been told they're too sensitive, or quietly wondered whether their gut instincts mean anything. Lisa Campion doesn't want your belief. She just wants you to start paying attention.
👉 Listen now and find out whether what you've been calling anxiety might actually be the most useful thing about you.
Free Resource: Lisa offers a free 5-video course, Energy Management for Empaths, at
lisacampion.com. Psychic self-defense techniques, boundary-setting strategies, and energy hygiene...all in one place. No belt required. (But Lisa did confirm there are belts.)
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