10 Months At Sea, A School For Global Leadership

10 Months At Sea, A School For Global Leadership

Author: ThoughtStretchers Education February 4, 2026 Duration: 57:24

Drew Perkins welcomes Emily Waugh and Gabriela Delgado de Fina, both Assistant Heads of School for the A+ World Academy. They discuss the academy's unique educational model: a 10-month voyage for 72 students aboard the Sorlandet, a fully rigged ship built in 1927. The conversation explores the challenges and rewards of a "school at sea," where academics, communal living, and maritime training converge.

Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode

Watch on YouTube

Have some feedback you'd like to share? You can email me at drew@thoughtstretchers.org.

If you enjoyed this episode, please share it and please leave a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you're listening.

Emily and Gabriela detail the academy's core philosophy and five goals for global leadership, which integrates academics with global studies, communal living, maritime training, and reflective learning. They share how students are required to participate in maritime watches, cleaning, and galley duties, fostering a deep sense of responsibility and grit. A mandatory course, "Self Systems and Society," serves as the anchor for these experiences, providing a space for students to reflect on conflict resolution and the unique challenges of sharing a living space with 72 peers.

The discussion dives into the academy's current transition toward a more Project-Based Learning (PBL) curriculum. Gabriela and Emily candidly discuss the hurdles of implementing inquiry-based research, such as "Port Quests," in an environment with limited internet and library resources. They highlight the ongoing internal debate about balancing traditional knowledge acquisition with progressive skill development, illustrating what Drew calls a "knowledge-rich inquiry" model.

Finally, they touch upon the essential nature of memorization in maritime life—where knowing the names and functions of hundreds of lines is a matter of safety—and the rigorous admissions process that seeks out curious students who are ready for the sacrifice and adventure of life at sea.

Timestamped Episode Timeline

  • [00:03:43] Introductions and Roles – Emily and Gabriela share their journeys from teaching on the ship to their current land-based leadership roles.
  • [00:08:02] Diverse Educational Backgrounds – A look at the progressive and traditional schooling experiences that shaped the guests' pedagogical perspectives.
  • [00:11:39] The "My Five" Philosophy – Breaking down the five pillars of global leadership at A+ World Academy.
  • [00:13:56] Life on the Sorlandet – Logistics of the 10-month voyage, the "top of the eight" Atlantic loop, and the requirement for every student to help operate the ship.
  • [00:18:32] Connectivity and Crew Rotations – Managing limited internet access and the recent shift to rotating academic teams for sustainability.
  • [00:21:43] Shifting to Project-Based Learning – Why the academy is moving away from traditional AP structures toward more integrated port-based projects.
  • [00:28:37] The Knowledge vs. Skills Debate – Navigating the balance between progressive education and the need for content mastery.
  • [00:38:15] Measuring Success Beyond Academics – The difficulty of quantifying qualitative growth in areas like communal living and resilience.
  • [00:48:15] The Power of Functional Memorization – Why students must memorize maritime terms and how the "need to know" creates deep learning.
  • [00:54:30] Student Profile and Motivation – What the academy looks for in applicants and why students voluntarily give up their phones.

Hosted by ThoughtStretchers Education, The ThoughtStretchers Podcast is built on the belief that the best teaching emerges from genuine dialogue and challenging questions. This isn't about quick tips or superficial trends. Instead, each episode engages in the kind of dialectic conversations that push beyond comfortable assumptions, examining the foundational ideas and complex issues that shape modern learning environments. You'll hear deep, often meandering discussions that probe the "why" behind educational practices, fostering a space for intellectual rigor rarely found in typical professional development. Tuning into this podcast feels like sitting in on a thoughtful, sometimes provocative, roundtable where curiosity is the primary curriculum. It’s for educators who find energy in debate and refinement of thought, who believe that strengthening their own intellectual framework is the first step toward nurturing it in others. The dialogue here is designed to stretch your perspective on pedagogy, curriculum, and the very purpose of education, making it a sustained exercise in professional growth. If you’re looking to engage with education on a more philosophical and principled level, these conversations offer a compelling and substantive resource.
Author: Language: en-us Episodes: 100

The ThoughtStretchers Podcast
Podcast Episodes
How To Attract And Retain High-Quality Teachers [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 41:10
Drew Perkins talks with Heather Peske, President of the National Council on Teacher Quality, about their recently published executive summary, Reimagining the Teaching Role: How Strategic Staffing Can Attract and Retain…
The Case Against School Choice Vouchers [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:03:38
Drew Perkins talks with Josh Cowen about his book, The Privateers: How Billionaires Created a Culture War and Sold School Vouchers Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Grappling With Student Mental Health [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 44:02
Drew Perkins talks with Karen Foley, President of JPA Chicago, about their work to address student mental health in the Chicago area. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Cognitive Load Theory Reframed [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:02:29
Drew Perkins talks with Oliver Cavigioli about his reframing of Cognitive Load Theory. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
A Libertarian Look At School Choice [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:36:39
Drew Perkins talks with Neal McCluskey, Director of the Cato Institute's Center for Educational Freedom, about his school choice advocacy. Click To View Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Expansive DEI And Fostering Intercultural Respect [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:00:55
Drew Perkins talks with Nayeli Vivanco, Vice President at International House at UC Berkeley, about their approach to promoting respectful discourse and unity. Click To View Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Elevating The Voice Of Principals [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 36:52
Drew Perkins talks with NASSP Board President, Raquel Martinez, about her work as a principal and newly appointed organizational role. Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode
Does 'Equity' Undermine Science Education? [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:20:37
Drew Perkins talks with Cornell professor, Randy Wayne, about the Franklin Standards, an alternative meant to address shortcomings in the NGSS. Click To View Links & Resources Mentioned In This Episode