20VC: Base44's Maor Shlomo on How Vibe Coding Will Kill SaaS and Salesforce | Why it is BS that Vibe Coding Platforms Do Not Have Defensibility and Bad Margins | Why He Worries About Google, Not Replit and Lovable | Why Long Anthropic, Not OpenAI?

20VC: Base44's Maor Shlomo on How Vibe Coding Will Kill SaaS and Salesforce | Why it is BS that Vibe Coding Platforms Do Not Have Defensibility and Bad Margins | Why He Worries About Google, Not Replit and Lovable | Why Long Anthropic, Not OpenAI?

Author: Harry Stebbings November 24, 2025 Duration: 1:11:43
The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
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Maor Shlomo is the Founder and CEO of Base44, the AI building platform that Maor built from idea to $80M acquisition by Wix, in just 8 months. Today the company serves millions of users and will hit $50M ARR by the end of the year. Before Base44, Maor was the Co-Founder and CTO of Explorium.

AGENDA:

00:05 – 00:10: How Vibe Coding is Going to Kill Salesforce and SaaS

00:13 – 00:15: Do Vibe Coding platforms have any defensibility?

00:22 – 00:24: I am not worried about Replit and Lovable, I am worried about Google…

00:28 – 00:29: Margins do not matter, the price of the models will go to zero

00:31 – 00:32: Speed to copy has never been lower; has the technical moat been eroded?

00:47 – 00:48: How does Base44 beat Cursor?

00:56 – 00:57: Do not pay attention to competition: focus on your business

00:57 – 00:58: How Base44 is helped, not hurt by not being in Silicon Valley?

00:58 – 00:59: What percent of code will be written by AI in 12 months?

01:01 – 01:02: OpenAI or Anthropic: Why Maor is Long Anthropic?

01:03 – 01:04: If I could have any board member in the world it would be Jack Dorsey

 

 

 


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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
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20VC: Anthropic Raises $30BN from Microsoft and NVIDIA | NVIDIA Core Business Threatened by TPU | Sam Altman's "War Mode" Analysed | Sierra Hits $100M ARR: Justifies $10BN Price? | Lovable Hits $200M ARR & Rumoured $6BN Round [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:30:09
AGENDA: 04:06 Anthropic's $30BN Investment from Microsoft and NVIDIA 07:01 Google vs. OpenAI: Sam Altman's "War Mode" Memo 15:27 NVIDIA's Customer Concentration: Bull or Bear 22:12 Is "War Mode" BS: Does Hyper-Aggressive…
20VC: Cursor Raises $2.3BN: Who Wins the Coding War | Peter Thiel and Softbank Sell NVIDIA: Analysed | Why Venture Capital Will Hit $1TRN and the Opening of Retail | Why Stripe and the Best Companies Will Never Go Public [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:22:38
AGENDA: 04:47 Cursor Raises $2.3BN at $29BN Valuation 11:36 What Gemini 3 Means for Lovable, Cursor and Replit 30:54 Peter Thiel and Softbank Sell NVIDIA: The Bubble Bursting? 48:54 Oracle Credit Default Swaps: The Risk…
20VC: Andrew NG on The Biggest Bottlenecks in AI | How LLMs Can Be Used as a Geopolitical Weapon | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI? | Is Defensibility Dead in a World of AI? | Will AI Deliver Masa Son's Predictions of 5% GDP Growth? [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:02:53
Dr. Andrew Ng is a globally recognized leader in AI. He is Founder of DeepLearning.AI, Executive Chairman of LandingAI, General Partner at AI Fund, Chairman and Co-Founder of Coursera. As a pioneer in machine learning An…
20VC: Benchmark's Newest General Partner Ev Randle on Why Margins Matter Less in AI | Why Mega Funds Will Not Produce Good Returns | OpenAI vs Anthropic: What Happens and Who Wins Coding | Investing Lessons from Peter Thiel and Mamoon Hamid [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:25:43
Ev Randle is a General Partner @ Benchmark, one of the best funds in venture capital. In their latest fund, they have Mercor ($10BN valuation), Sierra ($10BN valuation), Firework ($4BN valuation), Legora ($2Bn valuation)…
20VC: Cohere's Chief AI Officer on Why Scaling Laws Will Continue | Whether You Can Buy Success in AI with Talent Acquisitions | The Future of Synthetic Data & What It Means for Models | Why AI Coding is Akin to Image Generation in 2015 with Joelle Pineau [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 57:34
Joelle Pineau is the Chief AI Officer at Cohere, where she leads research on advancing large language models and practical AI systems. Before joining Cohere, she was VP of AI Research at Meta, where she founded and led M…

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