20VC: Inside Coatue's $70BN Machine: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

20VC: Inside Coatue's $70BN Machine: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

Author: Harry Stebbings February 23, 2026 Duration: 1:06:43
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Lucas Swisher co-leads the growth fund at Coatue where he has partnered with iconic companies like OpenAI, Harvey, Deel, Canva, Openevidence, Anthropic, and others. Prior to Coatue, he was on the investment team at Kleiner Perkins, where he focused on growth stage software businesses. 

AGENDA:

04:23 Why Public SaaS Is Getting Crushed in the AI Wave

06:01 How to Find Value in the Deluge of Public SaaS

10:34 Durability of Revenue in AI

17:42 Market Size vs. Founder Quality: What Wins?

19:04 Why Price is the Last Thing to Matter

24:58 Mega-Funds Math: Can $5B+ Funds Still Generate Venture Returns?

28:04 What Returns Are 'Enough'? Why 3x Isn't Exciting at Growth

30:34 When Double-Downs Go Wrong: Overestimating TAM and Multi-Product Expansion

33:03 Margin Matters… But at Scale: AI Gross Margins, Cost Curves & Efficiency

36:42 Why it has never been harder to be a seed investor

39:25 Is 'Kingmaking' a Myth: When Capital Helps (and When It Hurts)

44:12 Is Canva Really a Platform Company? Multi S-Curves and Leaning into AI Early

46:05 Lessons from Mary Meeker: Modeling, Storytelling with Data, and Not Missing the Forest

48:27 Lessons from Mamoon Hamid: Spotting Inflection Points with Minimal Data (Figma Story)

49:54 LP 'Pick One' Games: Mamoon Hamid, Mary Meeker, Insight Partners

51:41 OpenAI vs Anthropic: Who Wins?

56:52 Most Memorable Founder Meeting: Harvey and Founder-Market Fit

59:00 Career Decisions & Misses: Leaving Insight, Missing Anduril, and Looking Ahead

 


Hosted by Harry Stebbings, The Twenty Minute VC (20VC) pulls back the curtain on the high-stakes worlds of venture capital and startup building. Each episode is a compact, twenty-minute dive into the minds shaping the future of technology. You’ll hear candid conversations with legendary investors, the very individuals who fund and guide the next generation of companies, featuring voices like Sequoia's Doug Leone and Benchmark's Bill Gurley. Beyond the capital, this podcast dedicates time to the founders themselves. Weekly, Stebbings sits down with transformative entrepreneurs such as Spotify's Daniel Ek, LinkedIn's Reid Hoffman, and Snowflake's Frank Slootman, unpacking the real journeys behind their iconic companies. The format is direct and focused, cutting straight to the core insights on funding strategies, pitch dynamics, and the personal philosophies that drive success. Tuning into this podcast means gaining an unfiltered perspective from both sides of the table, all delivered in a concise and accessible style that fits into your day.
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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
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20VC: Marc Andreessen on The Future of Venture Capital: Will a16z Go Public | Why Labour Displacement with AI is Wrong | Why Introspection is Dangerous | Why "Diamonds in the Rough" is BS in VC | Why a16z Invested $300M into Adam Neumann [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:12:16
Marc Andreessen is a Co-Founder and General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz. The firm now manages over $90BN and has invested in the likes of OpenAI, Airbnb, Coinbase, Anduril and many more. Marc is an innovator and creat…
20VC: The Venture Model is Broken | You Need to be Greedy and Selfish to Win Early Stage Investing | Why Margins Do Not Matter for Early-Stage Startups | The Growth Rate that is Required in a World of AI with Gili Raanan, Founder @ Cyberstarts [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 52:37
Gili Raanan is the Founder of Cyberstarts, one of the best performing venture funds of the last decade. He is famed for being the seed investor in Wiz, Islands and Cyera, leading to multiple 10x+ funds. He has the only r…
20VC: Inside Anduril's $20BN Army Contract & Why Anduril Must Go Public | Why 99% of Drone Companies Will Die | Why There is Never an Ethical Question of How Anduril Products are Used with Matthew Steckman, President @ Anduril [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 53:51
Matthew Steckman is the President and Chief Business Officer of Anduril. Matt played a central role in securing the $20BN contract Anduril just won with the US military. Prior to Anduril, Matt served as Chief Revenue Off…
20VC: The Return of Travis Kalanick: Uber Would Be $1TRN Today With Him | NVIDIA Predicts $1TRN in Revenue: Everything You Need to Know From GTC | Anduril Lands $20BN Army Contract | Adobe CEO Shock Exit: The Dominos Falling [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:15:15
AGENDA: 04:02 NVIDIA's GTC: What You Need to Know 11:39 Meta's 20% Layoffs & Atlassian Lets Go of 1,600 21:42 How to Test AI Fluency in Employees 30:59 Anduril Lands $20BN Army Contract 46:46 Travis Kalanick Returns With…
20VC: The 8 Moats of Enduring Software Companies: How to Analyse for Durability and Defensibility in a World of AI | Why Dropouts are "AI Maxing" the World & Remote Early-Stage Companies are Dying with Gokul Rajaram [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:18:21
Gokul Rajaram is one of the greatest operators turned investors of the last 2 decades. He is trusted as the go to advisor for the greatest founders in the world. Today he serves as a Board Director at three public compan…
20VC: Inside Accel's $4BN Growth Investing Machine | Cursor is Dead is Total BS: Here is Why | What Missing Rippling and ElevenLabs Taught Us | Are $2BN-$10BN IPOs Dead | Why Now is a Great Time to be Thoma Bravo with Miles Clements [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:03:02
Miles Clements is a Partner @ Accel where he helps to lead their growth fund. At Accel, Miles has led or invested in Atlassian, Cursor, Linear, and more. AGENDA: 03:38 Where is True Alpha and Value in a World of AI 05:10…

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