Is It Time to Rethink LLM Pre-Training? with Aditi Raghunathan - #747

Is It Time to Rethink LLM Pre-Training? with Aditi Raghunathan - #747

Author: Sam Charrington September 16, 2025 Duration: 58:26
Today, we're joined by Aditi Raghunathan, assistant professor at Carnegie Mellon University, to discuss the limitations of LLMs and how we can build more adaptable and creative models. We dig into her ICML 2025 Outstanding Paper Award winner, “Roll the dice & look before you leap: Going beyond the creative limits of next-token prediction,” which examines why LLMs struggle with generating truly novel ideas. We dig into the "Roll the dice" approach, which encourages structured exploration by injecting randomness at the start of generation, and the "Look before you leap" concept, which trains models to take "leaps of thought" using alternative objectives to create more diverse and structured outputs. We also discuss Aditi’s papers exploring the counterintuitive phenomenon of "catastrophic overtraining," where training models on more data improves benchmark performance but degrades their ability to be fine-tuned for new tasks, and dig into her lab's work on creating more controllable and reliable models, including the concept of "memorization sinks," an architectural approach to isolate and enable the targeted unlearning of specific information. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/747.

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