WOF 541: "Heaven in Stone and Glass"—A New Feature Film by Bishop Barron

WOF 541: "Heaven in Stone and Glass"—A New Feature Film by Bishop Barron

Author: Bishop Robert Barron August 3, 2026 Duration: 37:27

Welcome back to the Word on Fire Show. I'm Matthew Petrusek, senior director of the Word on Fire Institute and the host of the Word on Fire Show. Thank you for joining us. We're delighted to announce that a new feature film by Bishop Robert Barron will be hitting theaters—yes, theaters—soon. The full-length documentary, entitled Heaven in Stone and Glass, draws on the collective shock and sadness the world experienced watching Paris's Cathedral of Notre-Dame burn in 2019 to explore the enduring philosophical, theological, aesthetic, moral, and evangelical significance of the great Gothic cathedrals of France. Recognizing the potential destruction of Notre-Dame—happily, it has since been restored—as much more than the loss of a historic building, Bishop Barron personally walks us through Gothicism's soaring architecture and richly detailed symbolism to explain everything from the unity and diversity of creation, the nature of the human person, the objectivity of beauty, the meaning of the incarnation, the living communion of saints, and the hope of the beatific vision, and how all of this matters more than ever for a rapidly secularizing West at risk of losing its Christian civilizational identity. Here to share the story behind the making of the film, and what he hopes audiences will take away from it, is Bishop Robert Barron.

Topics Covered

00:00 | Introduction
01:24 | Bishop Barron ordains new priests
02:57 | The role of film in the early days of Word on Fire
06:04 | Connecting Heaven in Stone and Glass to Word on Fire's other films
07:26 | Why a new film on cathedrals?
09:00 | Personal origins of the new film
11:23 | Unpacking the film's title
15:18 | Explaining the full meaning of a church and cathedral
19:20 | Theological reflections within a cathedral
24:11 | Medieval times and the so-called Dark Ages
25:51 | The objective reality of beauty
28:44 | The role of the profane in the Gothic cathedrals
32:33 | Overcoming blindness through appreciation and emulation
33:36 | Evangelical opportunities for Heaven in Stone and Glass
34:56 | Listener question: How can the laity advance beauty today?
36:53 | Join the Word on Fire Institute

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Each week, The Word on Fire Show-Catholic Faith and Culture offers a thoughtful conversation with Bishop Robert Barron. This podcast explores the rich intersection of belief with contemporary life, examining everything from art and philosophy to current events and personal spirituality through a Catholic lens. Listeners will find deep dives into theological concepts, reflections on scripture, and discussions on how ancient wisdom addresses modern challenges. The tone is engaging and accessible, designed for anyone curious about the deeper questions, whether they are longtime in their faith or simply exploring. Bishop Barron brings his distinctive perspective as a theologian and communicator to these dialogues, making complex ideas relatable. It’s a space for meaningful exploration, where faith is presented as a compelling force for understanding our world and our place within it. New episodes arrive weekly, continuing a long-running series of insightful commentary and analysis.
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