404. Evelyn Iritani with Frank Abe: Safe Passage: The Exchange of American and Japanese Civilians by Sea

404. Evelyn Iritani with Frank Abe: Safe Passage: The Exchange of American and Japanese Civilians by Sea

Author: Town Hall Seattle March 27, 2026 Duration: 1:00:58

Across the water from Seattle, you can visit the Bainbridge Island Japanese American Exclusion Memorial. It's a place to honor and learn from the past. Evelyn Iritani, a longtime Seattle resident and Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, wants to remember – and learn from – another, lesser-known story from World War II. In her book, Safe Passage, she reveals the dramatic, behind-the-scenes efforts to bring U.S. and Japanese citizens home from enemy land.

In 1943, during some of the Pacific theater's bloodiest battles, the United States and Japan coordinated the exchange of civilians caught on the wrong side of the battlefield after Pearl Harbor. Nearly fifteen hundred Allied civilians trapped in Asia, mostly U.S. citizens, sailed through dangerous waters to India, where they were traded for Japanese immigrants sent from the U.S. The fate of the more than ten thousand U.S. civilians left behind in Asia rested on the success of this endeavor.

Engineering these wartime exchanges was fraught within and outside the U.S. government. The U.S. uprooted and repatriated Japanese citizens of Latin America, sometimes against their will. People imprisoned in camps like Bainbridge Island, many of them American citizens, were forced to choose between expulsion to a war zone in Japan or an uncertain future behind barbed wire. Through these stories, Iritani explains how messy humanitarian efforts can be in wartime and illuminates the lasting effects of racism throughout U.S. history.

Evelyn Iritani is the author of An Ocean Between Us: The Changing Relationship of Japan and the United StatesTold in Four Stories from the Life of an American Town. She is a former reporter for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer and the Los Angeles Times, where her reporting garnered numerous awards, including the 2004 Pulitzer Prize for National Reporting for a series she coauthored on Walmart.

Frank Abe is lead author of the graphic novel, WE HEREBY REFUSE: Japanese American Resistance to Wartime Incarceration, a Finalist in Creative Nonfiction for the Washington State Book Award, and co-editor with Floyd Cheung of a new Penguin Classics anthology, THE LITERATURE OF JAPANESE AMERICAN INCARCERATION. He won an American Book Award as co-editor of JOHN OKADA: The Life & Rediscovered Work of the Author of No-No Boy, and wrote and directed the award-winning PBS documentary CONSCIENCE AND THE CONSTITUTION." He is currently developing a new stage adaptation of Okada's NO-NO BOY.

 


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