0703 | Little Oklahoma

0703 | Little Oklahoma

Author: Studio BOTH/AND October 13, 2025 Duration: 36:32
Josh follows up on a new tip from FBI Special Agent Ted Halla. It takes him to familiar ground, both literally and in cases he's looked into previously. This new tip, with some research and fascinating conversations, compels Josh to some interesting and shocking conclusions. 

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
Additional research by: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Jordan Taylor.  
 
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Music by: Radical Face, Odyssey, and 9 Moons. 
Featured song by: Hannah Cohen. 

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For nearly a decade, host Josh Hallmark has been immersed in the unsettling and complex case of one of America's most methodical serial killers. True Crime Bullsh**: The Israel Keyes Investigation is a deeply researched, serialized exploration that goes far beyond the headlines. This isn't a casual retelling; it's an active investigation. Hallmark meticulously combs through thousands of pages of FBI documents, pores over hours of interrogation footage, and collaborates with forensic experts and law enforcement to piece together a clearer picture of Keyes' movements and motives. The central, driving purpose of this podcast is to bring names and stories to the unidentified and missing individuals who may have crossed paths with Keyes. Listeners are taken along on that painstaking journey, hearing original audio evidence and following each new lead as it emerges. Produced by Studio BOTH/AND, the series unfolds like a documentary, offering a comprehensive and often chilling look into the investigative process itself. It’s a commitment to depth over sensation, focusing on the unanswered questions that still haunt this case years later.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 50

True Crime Bullsh**: The Israel Keyes Investigation
Podcast Episodes
Retrospective 3: Darkness [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 50:19
In Retrospective 3, Josh discusses how 24 harrowing hours changed his life and the course of True Crime Bullsh**. He discusses how an incident re-shaped his vision for the first episode of the podcast, and his view on tr…
Introducing Framed: Season 3 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 3:03
Aaron Habel, of Generation Why, has just launched the third season of his long-form investigative podcast Framed. In this season, Aaron looks into the death of Clair County Community College student Scott Macklem as well…
Israel Keyes Interview: June 1, 2012 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 2:02:51
In this interview, Keyes meets with Detective Murtie from Essex PD to discuss the Currier's double-murder. He also offers insights into his strategies, his home abductions, his MO, his time in Vermont, and more.10th Anni…
Retrospective 2: Investigations [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 58:38
Retrospective 2 takes us to the origin of the investigation; where Josh's interest in storytelling evolved into his obsession of needing to know everything. And it started in a surprising place: a bound book of correspon…
July 12, 2012, part 2 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:04:32
In the second half of Israel Keyes's 7/12 FBI interview, he discusses trophies, burglaries, arsons, following other serial killers, the women he dated, the relationship between his violent crimes and arsons and robberies…
July 12, 2012, part 1 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:02:36
In this interview, Keyes discusses the Texas and Eagle River caches, blood on his boat, sex workers, cemeteries, Ted Bundy, Dean Koontz, his time in Texas, and more.Part 2 will be out on June 21.TROVA TRIP to Costa Ricah…
Retrospective 1: The Ignition [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:25:34
To celebrate 10 years in podcasting, we're spending the summer going back in time and both highlighting key episodes and telling the stories behind them; you’ll get new behind-the-scenes information about what was happen…
The Butterfly Effect: Identifying the Does, one case at a time [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 24:04
Every year over 4,000 unidentified bodies are recovered in the United States. 600,000 people are reported as missing, and thousands more go unreported. The Butterfly Effect is an investigative podcast that seeks to reuni…
October 22, 2012: Part 2 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 46:57
In the second half of this interview, Keyes shares his thoughts on other serial killers like BTK, Ted Bundy, and The Green River Killer. Then he discusses his plans for the future, losing control, and how the facade of h…
October 22, 2012: Part 1 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:15:43
In this interview, Keyes discusses publicity and strategy, the impacts of his crimes on his family, searching for remains, the NY victim, lies he's told about his time in Texas, and serial killers he's read about and stu…