0710 | Undercurrent

0710 | Undercurrent

Author: Studio BOTH/AND December 12, 2025 Duration: 37:55
Josh and team dissect various information and semantics surrounding Keyes's male-female couple. They circle back to Eugene Hyatt and Kami Vollendroff, and then deep-dive the disappearance of a Spokane couple. Then new information from a friend of Keyes gives the team a new perspective not on just the male-female couple and the vicitm ruled accidental, but potentially all of Keyes's unknown victims. 

This episode was written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
With research by: Kathleen S. and Jordan Taylor
 
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For nearly a decade, host Josh Hallmark has been immersed in the unsettling and complex case of one of America's most methodical serial killers. True Crime Bullsh**: The Israel Keyes Investigation is a deeply researched, serialized exploration that goes far beyond the headlines. This isn't a casual retelling; it's an active investigation. Hallmark meticulously combs through thousands of pages of FBI documents, pores over hours of interrogation footage, and collaborates with forensic experts and law enforcement to piece together a clearer picture of Keyes' movements and motives. The central, driving purpose of this podcast is to bring names and stories to the unidentified and missing individuals who may have crossed paths with Keyes. Listeners are taken along on that painstaking journey, hearing original audio evidence and following each new lead as it emerges. Produced by Studio BOTH/AND, the series unfolds like a documentary, offering a comprehensive and often chilling look into the investigative process itself. It’s a commitment to depth over sensation, focusing on the unanswered questions that still haunt this case years later.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 100

True Crime Bullsh**: The Israel Keyes Investigation
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May 29, 2012 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:02:00
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0714 | Changes [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 43:15
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0713 | Houston [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 46:07
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0712 | Couples, Part 2 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 39:15
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0711 | Infrastructure [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 44:06
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0709 | Kootenai [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 32:31
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