Episode 2: The Arrival

Episode 2: The Arrival

Author: iHeartPodcasts January 25, 2023 Duration: 49:04

Survivors of Mt. Meigs share how they ended up in the juvenile justice system and what happened once they went down the long road to the reformatory. Lonnie and Johnny meet the foreboding superintendent EB Holloway, while Mary and Jennie must deal with the girls’ matron, Fannie B. Matthews. 

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Unreformed: the Story of the Alabama Industrial School for Negro Children begins with a single, arresting image: five Black girls in Montgomery, 1968, wearing outsized military clothes. Their arrest was not the end of their story, but the desperate beginning of their attempt to be heard. They were runaways from the Alabama Industrial School for Negro Children at Mount Meigs, a state institution masquerading as a reform school. This podcast meticulously traces their journey and the brutal system they fled-a world of physical and sexual violence, decrepit facilities, and exhausting field labor that defined their incarceration. The narrative expands from that moment in 1968 to excavate the full, harrowing history of the school itself, an institution that operated for decades. Produced by iHeartPodcasts, this series sits at the intersection of history, culture, and society, examining how such places were permitted to exist and the lasting scars they left on generations. Listeners will hear a deeply researched account that goes beyond a simple timeline, weaving together archival material, historical context, and personal testimony to give voice to those who were silenced. It’s a story about the fight for truth in the face of a powerful machinery of neglect and cruelty, revealing how the past’s unresolved injustices continue to resonate. Each episode of this podcast builds a compelling and necessary portrait of a chapter in American history that demands to be understood.
Author: Language: en-us Episodes: 10

Unreformed: the Story of the Alabama Industrial School for Negro Children
Podcast Episodes
Episode 8: Searching for Justice [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 44:54
In the final episode, we look at where Lonnie, Mary, Johnny, Jennie, Johnny Mack, and Denny are fifty years after leaving Mt. Meigs. We also look at how juvenile justice in America has evolved and how other juvenile refo…
Unreformed presents "5-4: Tanner v. United States." [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 48:37
Hey folks, Josie here! We wanted to share a show that we think you might like. It's called 5-4, and it's about how much the Supreme Court sucks. 5-4 is all about how the Supreme Court DOESN'T provide justice, and we thin…
Episode 7: The Aftermath [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 35:05
Many people who were incarcerated at Mt. Meigs as children ended up spending their entire lives tethered to the criminal legal system. Many were sentenced to life in prison. Many others were sentenced to death. This epis…
Episode 6: Scallawags and Carpetbaggers [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 41:59
Denny Abbott enlists the help of lawyer Ira Dement to sue the state of Alabama. What ensues is a years-long battle, multiple lawsuits, personal turmoil, but also...a glimmer of hope for the kids at Mt. Meigs. Special tha…
Episode 5: When Mary Met Denny [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 25:08
Mary Stephens and four other girls escape Mt. Meigs and are determined to tell someone about what's happened to them. Probation officer Denny Abbott must make a decision. If you or someone you know attended Mt. Meigs and…
Episode 4: The Runaways [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 28:37
Since the 1920s, notices started appearing in the local newspapers near Mt. Meigs. They said things like "Six armed negroes escaped Mount Meigs Industrial School” or “Police seeking escape artist in burglary." In this ep…
Episode 3: Cornelia's Dream [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 39:38
By the 1960s, the Alabama Industrial School for Negro Children was an early prototype of the for-profit prison. But it wasn’t designed that way. In this episode, we go back to the early 20th century when a Black woman an…
Episode 1: The Lucky Ones [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 39:50
Reporter Josie Duffy Rice travels to a small town outside Montgomery, Alabama, and tries to visit a juvenile reform school, once called the Alabama Industrial School for Negro Children or Mt. Meigs. The school opened in…