November 1984

November 1984

Author: Karl Kuras May 6, 2026 Duration: 3:10:25

Comdex belongs to IBM
Xmas sales outlook dismal
Games get protected in Japan

These stories and many more on this episode of the VGNRTM!

This episode we will look back at the biggest stories in and around the video game industry in November 1984. 
As always, we'll mostly be using magazine cover dates, and those are of course always a bit behind the actual events.

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7 Minutes in Heaven: KnightLore
Video Version: https://www.patreon.com/posts/157513930
    https://www.mobygames.com/game/14733/knight-lore/

Corrections:
Ethan's fine site The History of How We Play: https://thehistoryofhowweplay.wordpress.com/
October 1984 Ep - https://www.patreon.com/posts/october-1984-137843011
    
October 1994 Ep - https://www.patreon.com/posts/october-1994-151072694    
    Mortal Kombat Live Tour - https://youtu.be/nbOQIheheDc


1974:
1974 - Creative Computing debuts
    https://archive.org/details/CreativeComputingv01n01NovemberDecember1974

1984:
Atari claims Coleco to exit UK console market
    https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-15/mode/1up

Coleco exits the UK market
    https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-29/mode/1up

Parker Brothers abandons UK
    https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-29/page/n4/mode/1up
    https://www.sinclaircollection.site/?page_id=520   http://www.fruitcake.plus.com/Sinclair/Interface2/Cartridges/Interface2_RC_Unreleased.htm

Hi-Tech isn't UK's savior
    Financial Notebook: Hi-tech myth / Employment falls in information, technology industry, The Guardian (London), November 2, 1984
    
Coinop earnings crater
    Play Meter November 1, 1984, pg. 32.

Nintendo pushes VS. Paks and standards
    Play Meter November 15, 1984, pg. 24
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_VS._System

Atari Games gets into systems
    RePlay November 1984, pg. 16
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Games
    https://www.mobygames.com/game/3929/star-wars/
    https://www.mobygames.com/game/21280/star-wars-the-empire-strikes-back/
    https://www.mobygames.com/game/17500/star-wars-return-of-the-jedi/

Konami buys Interlogic
    https://archive.org/details/game-machine-magazine-19841115p/page/n13/mode/2up
    Gung Ho - https://www.imdb.com/de/title/tt0091159/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_gung%20ho

Twin Galaxies looking for world records
    https://archive.org/details/guinness1985book00mcwh/page/570/mode/2up?q=video+game   
    Play Meter, November 1, 1984 pg. 25

Colecovision rides Cabbage Patch Kid coattails
    Rainbow Brite, Robots Give Cabbage Patch Kids Run for Money, The Associated Press, November 20, 1984, Tuesday, AM cycle, Section: Domestic News, Byline: By ROGER GILLOTT, AP Business Writer
    Cabbage Patch/Colecovision Ad - https://youtu.be/lqZsOeEWDtw?si=k3zoqYsDuL00pxmB

IBM conquers Comdex
    I.B.M. ENTRY UNCHALLENGED AT SHOW, The New York Times, November 19, 1984, Monday, Late City Final Edition, Section: Section D; Page 1, Column 3; Financial Desk, Byline: By DAVID E. SANGER
    Current well-behaved packages leave user dreams unfulfilled, Computerworld, November 19, 1984, Section: MICROCOMPUTERS; Small Talk; Pg. 57, Byline: Eric Bender, CW Senior Editor
    Denise Carabet, The San Diego Union-Tribune, November 26, 1984 Monday, Section: BUSINESS; Pg. A-16
    Comdex host to myriad micro debuts; Show features few surprises, Computerworld, November 19, 1984, Section: NEWS; Pg. 1, Byline: By Eric Bender, CW Staff     
    PERIPHERALS;THE ALLURE OF LASER PRINTERS, The New York Times, November 20, 1984, Tuesday, Late City Final Edition, Section: Section C; Page 7, Column 1; Science Desk, Byline: By PETER H. LEWIS
    Foreign vendors showcase wares at Comdex;Japanese, Australian, English vendors highlight product introductions in '84, Computerworld, November 26, 1984,Section: NEWS; Pg. 40, Byline: By Susan Blakeney, CW Staff

Apple ad spree continues
    Apple Goes After Share of Mind Over Market; 'Event Marketing' Has Become Core Of No. 2's Strategy, ADWEEK, November 19, 1984, Eastern Edition, Byline: By Betsy Sharkey and Paul Farhi     
    APPLE'S MAC TAKING ON I.B.M. The New York Times, November 22, 1984, Thursday, Late City Final Edition, Section: Section D; Page 1, Column 3; Financial Desk, Byline: By ANDREW POLLACK
    No Headline In Original, U.S. News & World Report, November 19, 1984, Section: NEWSLETTERS: U.S. Business; TRENDS THAT SHAPE THE FUTURE; Pg. 75

Home computer sales slump in Xmas build up
    https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-22/page/n4/mode/1up
    Leisure Sector Gives Madison Ave. Big Xmas Gift, ADWEEK, November 5, 1984, Eastern Edition, Byline: By Amy Saltzman, Bob Peischel, Jack Feuer, Betsy Sharkey, Paul Farhi, Dottie Enirco and Fran Brock

Atari cuts price of 800XL
    https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-22/page/n4/mode/1up    
    Computer Wars: Atari Announces Price Slash
    The Associated Press, November 13, 1984, Tuesday, AM cycle, Section: Domestic News, Byline: By DIANE CURTIS, Associated Press Writer
    ATARI MAKES PLANS FOR STOCK OFFERINGS, The New York Times, November 14, 1984, Wednesday, Late City Final Edition, Section: Section D; Page 4, Column 5; Financial Desk
    https://discord.com/channels/431269689918750731/618928892232859659/1483821277230792834     
    Vaughn, Mullen Get CD Posts at WRG, ADWEEK, November 19, 1984, Eastern Edition, byline: By Gail Belsky

UK is"meh" on MSX
    https://ia600609.us.archive.org/31/items/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-01/PopularComputing_Weekly_Issue_1984-11-01.pdf  pg. 29

India says "yes" to BBC Micro
    Acorn User, November 1984, pg. 10     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-Conductor_Laboratory
    https://bbcmicro.computer/scl-unicorn

USSR copies Apple
    Byte November 1984, pg. 134
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agat_(computer)

Sinclair working on portable
    https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-08/page/n4/mode/1up  
    https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-29/mode/1up

ICL goes QL
    https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-01/mode/1up
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Per_Desk   
    https://youtu.be/FdmoXjmPPHk?si=-djAjZ1Es0wDCKV2
    No Headline In Original, The Associated Press, November 1, 1984, Thursday, AM cycle, Section: Business News    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROLM    
    Rolm workstations tie phone, micro;Desktop systems integrate voice, data communicationsions tie phone, micro, Computerworld, November 5, 1984, Section: NEWS; Pg. 2, Byline: By Eric Bender, CW Staff
    https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-22/mode/1up

QL gets 3rd party upgrades
    https://ia600609.us.archive.org/31/items/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-01/PopularComputing_Weekly_Issue_1984-11-01.pdf

PC Jr gets new lease on life
    THE USER-FRIENDLY VOTING BOOTH IS POISED TO COME ON LINE, The New York Times, November 4, 1984, Sunday, Late City Final Edition, Section: Section 4; Page 6, Column 1; Week in Review Desk, Byline: By DAVID E. SANGER    
    Local governments tap micros for electoral activities, Computerworld, November 5, 1984, Section: NEWS; Pg. 16, Byline: By James Connolly, CW Staf
    PCjr's second Halloween, Computerworld, November 5, 1984, Section: VIEWPOINT; Lecht on Science; Pg. 59, Byline: Charles P. Lecht;

Tandy 1000 debuts
    Tandy Unveils $1,199 IBM-Compatible Computer, The Associated Press, November 8, 1984, Thursday, BC cycle, Section: Business News

Hitachi shoots for 32-bit supremacy
    Hitachi Plans To Challenge U.S. Makers of 32-Bit Processors, The Associated Press, November 29, 1984, Thursday, BC cycle, Section: Business News
    Byte November 1984, pg. 159
    XTAR introduces 3D accelerator    Byte November 1984, pg. 179    
    https://archive.org/details/PC_Tech_Journal_vol03_n09/page/n27/mode/2up?q=xtar+polygone    
    https://www.bitsavers.org/magazines/Digital_Design/Digital_Design_V15_N08_198508.pdf

Thorn-EMI fires internal devs
    https://ia600609.us.archive.org/31/items/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-01/PopularComputing_Weekly_Issue_1984-11-01.pdf   pg. 8   
    https://www.mobygames.com/company/5174/creative-sparks/

Games Workshop gets into computer games
    https://www.mobygames.com/game/63565/tower-of-despair/   
    https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-22/page/n68/mode/1up  
    https://www.mobygames.com/company/3136/games-workshop-ltd/games/title:1/
    
Firebird buys Elite rights
    https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-29/page/n4/mode/1up 
    https://www.mobygames.com/game/1324/elite/
    https://www.mobygames.com/game/46533/elite/

Timothy Leary gets into games
    Timothy Leary: LSD `guru' leaps to floppy discs, The San Diego Union-Tribune, November 11, 1984 Sunday, Section: LIFESTYLE; Pg. D-1, Bline: Frank Green
    https://www.mobygames.com/game/254/timothy-learys-mind-mirror/
    
PlayNet profiled
    No Headline In Original, United Press International, November 4, 1984, Sunday, BC cycle, Section: Financial, Byline: By STEVE GEIMANN, UPI Business Writer    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayNET

BBS gets busted
    FREE-SPEECH ISSUES SURROUND COMPUTER BULLETIN BOARD USE, The New York Times, November 12, 1984, Monday, Late City Final Edition, Section: Section A; Page 1, Column 1; Financial Desk, Byline: By ANDREW POLLACK
    https://www.nytimes.com/1985/08/04/magazine/of-bytes-and-bulletin-boards.html
    The Night of the Hackers, Newsweek, November 12, 1984, UNITED STATES EDITION, Section: DISPATCHES; Pg. 17, Byline: RICHARD SANDZA

French paper Le Canard hacks French Nuclear program
    Computer secrets tapped / France, The Guardian (London), November 29, 1984, From PAUL WEBSTER

Hackers unpack
    Admitted hacker says he discovered Pentagon plans, United Press International, November 22, 1984, Thursday, AM cycle, Section: Domestic News, byline: By MICHAEL D. HARRIS

Move over modems, here come satellites!
    SATELLITE BROADCAST NETWORK, INC.; Satellite receiver system, Computerworld, November 19, 1984, Section: COMMUNICATIONS; Network Services; Pg. 41       
    New service for personal computers offers direct link to satellite, Christian Science Monitor (Boston, MA), November 20, 1984, Tuesday, Section: National; Pg. 11, Byline: By David F. Salisbury, Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

You haven't lived until you've died in MUD ad
    https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-22/page/n46/mode/1up

Hackers reviewed by New York Times
    PERSONAL COMPUTERS; THE BOOKS GET BETTER ON NONTECHNICAL TOPICS, The New York Times, November 6, 1984, Tuesday, Late City Final Edition, Section: Section C; Page 5, Column 1; Science Desk, Byline: By ERIK SANDBERG-DIMENT 
    IN SHORT, The New York Times, November 11, 1984, Sunday, Late City Final , Edition, Section: Section 7; Page 32, Column 1; Book Review Desk; Review

Micro Hobby launches in Spain
    https://archive.org/details/MicroHobby057/MicroHobby/MicroHobby_001/page/n31/mode/2up
    https://microhobby.speccy.cz/mhforever/

Japan recognizes video game copyirghts
    https://archive.org/details/game-machine-magazine-19841101p/page/n16/mode/1up
    
Commodore sees loophole in Amiga battle
    https://ia600609.us.archive.org/31/items/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-01/PopularComputing_Weekly_Issue_1984-11-01.pdf

Game music gets busted
    https://ia600609.us.archive.org/31/items/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-01/PopularComputing_Weekly_Issue_1984-11-01.pdf     
    https://youtu.be/6kFu5ojgnQU?si=3E6Tqg2Mi1vMQEnX
    https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-08/page/n4/mode/1up

UK PC clones get busted
    https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-08/mode/1up  
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_86
    
IBM eyes Mexico for factory
    BUSINESS DIGEST,The New York Times,November 28, 1984, Wednesday, Late City Final Edition, Section: Section D; Page 1, Column 1; Financial Desk; summary
    https://www.nytimes.com/1985/01/19/business/mexico-rejects-ibm-control-for-new-plant.html
    
Computer Museum finds permanent home
    First Computer Museum Opens On Boston's Waterfront, The Associated Press, November 14, 1984, Wednesday, PM cycle, Section: Domestic News, Byline: By BART ZIEGLER,    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Computer_Museum,_Boston

Acorn Video profiled
    https://archive.org/details/popular-computing-weekly-1984-11-15/page/n13/mode/1up

Datacopy announces Model 700 scanner
    DATACOPY; Announces major new product and software offerings, Business Wire, November 1, 1984, Thursday  
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datacopy

IBM mainframe strategies revealed
    IBM seeks mart leverage via customer revenue, Computerworld, November 26, 1984, Section: COMPUTER INDUSTRY; Pg. 97, Byline: By John Desmond, CW Staff

Hong Kong transfer disrupts toy supplies
    Playthings, November 1984, pg. 61
    
Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy goes Fourth
    COSMIC HITCHHIKER, United Press International, November 24, 1984, Saturday, BC cycle, Section: Domestic News, Byline: By WILLIAM C. TROTT, United Press International
    
Visicorp RIP
    VISICORP IS MERGING INTO PALADIN, The New York Times, November 3, 1984, Saturday, Late City Final Edition, Section: Section 1; Page 29, Column 3; Financial Desk, Byline: By ANDREW POLLACK
    Spreadsheets cited most used micro software, Computerworld, November 26, 1984, Section: MICROCOMPUTERS; Pg. 90
    https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1984-11-rescan/page/n11/mode/1up

Franklin RIP
    Franklin to free assets in effort to settle with creditors; Legal battles with Apple placed New Jersey-based manufacturer in financial, straits, Computerworld, November 12, 1984, Section: COMPUTER INDUSTRY; Pg. 138

Mylstar RIP
    Play Meter November 15, 1984, pg. 8


Recommended Links:

The History of How We Play: https://thehistoryofhowweplay.wordpress.com/
Gaming Alexandria: https://www.gamingalexandria.com/wp/
They Create Worlds: https://tcwpodcast.podbean.com/
Digital Antiquarian: https://www.filfre.net/
The Arcade Blogger: https://arcadeblogger.com/
Retro Asylum: http://retroasylum.com/category/all-posts/
Retro Game Squad: http://retrogamesquad.libsyn.com/
Playthrough Podcast: https://playthroughpod.com/
Retromags.com: https://www.retromags.com/
Games That Weren't - https://www.gamesthatwerent.com/


Sound Effects by Ethan Johnson of History of How We Play.


Copyright Karl Kuras


Ever wonder what gamers were actually talking about decades ago, before online forums and endless hot takes? Each month, Video Game Newsroom Time Machine hosted by Karl Kuras does exactly that, dusting off the headlines and magazine pages from the past. This isn't just a nostalgia trip; it's a grounded look at the industry's turning points as they happened. You'll hear about the surprising announcements, the forgotten controversies, and the hardware launches that had everyone buzzing-from arcade trends in Japan to home computer wars in Europe and North America. The podcast specifically revisits news from exactly 30, 40, and 50 years prior, creating a unique layered perspective on how video game culture evolved. It’s like sitting in a newsroom from a different era, piecing together the stories that shaped the games we remember today. Tune in for a monthly dose of context, where the past conversations about pixels and processors feel surprisingly fresh and directly connected to the present.
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