Why Pets Make Us More Human: A Conversation on Animal-Assisted Therapy with Dr. Aubrey Fine

Why Pets Make Us More Human: A Conversation on Animal-Assisted Therapy with Dr. Aubrey Fine

Author: Debra Hamilton, Esq. August 28, 2025 Duration: 38:37
Listen to this episode of Why Do Pets Matter for an inspiring conversation with Dr. Aubrey Fine, Professor Emeritus at California State Polytechnic University and an internationally recognized pioneer in animal-assisted therapy. Dr. Fine takes us on his journey from growing up in a pet-free home to becoming one of the foremost advocates for the human-animal bond, a path that began with an unexpected friendship with a gerbil named Sasha.   In this heartfelt discussion, Dr. Fine shares the therapeutic benefits of animals for children with learning disabilities, autism, and ADHD, while emphasizing why animal welfare must always come first in therapy settings. He reflects on more than four decades of groundbreaking work, his deep relationships with animals from therapy dogs to his horse’s foal “Fine-tastic,” and the profound lessons animals teach us about empathy, resilience, and responsibility.   Dr. Fine’s contributions to the field are immense. He served 42 years as a professor at Cal Poly, is a licensed clinical psychologist specializing in children with ADHD, learning disabilities, and developmental disorders, and has been recognized with the William F. McCulloch Award for Excellence in Human-Animal Interaction Education and Practice as well as the CSU Wang Award for Distinguished Professor. His publications include Handbook on Animal-Assisted Therapy (6th Edition, 2024), Afternoons with Puppy: Inspirations from a Therapist and His Animals, and Our Faithful Companions: Exploring the Essence of Our Kinship with Animals. Watch It: https://youtu.be/UzkTmHJO6S8   Guest Links: Dr. Fine's website: www.aubreyhfine.com Cal Poly faculty profile: www.cpp.edu/faculty/ahfine/ Clinical practice: www.aubreyhfine.com (Claremont, CA)   Show Links: https://hamiltonlawandmediation.com/ https://www.facebook.com/HLawMediation Debra's Book: "Nipped in the Bud, Not in the Butt: How to Use Mediation To Resolve Conflicts Over Animals," https://www.amazon.com/Nipped-Bud-Not-Butt-Mediation/dp/151502024X/ref=sr_1_1 SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/@HLawMediation

Debra Hamilton, Esq. brings a unique perspective to the conversation about our animal companions on Why Do Pets Matter?. As an attorney who specializes in pet-focused law, she navigates the often-overlooked complexities that arise when pets are part of our families and communities. Each episode explores the tangible, sometimes messy, realities of life with animals-from the legal intricacies of pet custody during a divorce to the everyday dilemmas and joys that pet owners face. Debra is joined by a variety of fascinating guests, ensuring conversations are rich with diverse viewpoints and practical solutions. This podcast digs into the science of our bonds with animals, the nature of their care, and how these relationships shape family life, making it a thoughtful listen for adults and curious kids alike. You’ll find the discussions are grounded in real-world stories, moving beyond simple anecdotes to examine why these creatures hold such an essential place in our homes and hearts. Tune in for a deeper understanding of the problems, the drama, and the profound connections that define our shared world with pets.
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