19.28: A Close Reading on Character: Internal vs External Identity

19.28: A Close Reading on Character: Internal vs External Identity

Author: Mary Robinette Kowal, DongWon Song, Erin Roberts, Dan Wells, and Howard Tayler July 14, 2024 Duration: 24:24

Today, we’re focusing on C.L. Clark’s  “The Cook,” as we explore external and internal expression. We chose this story because it's a remarkably physical and touchable story with myriad sensory details. While the audience gets very little information about what Clark’s characters are thinking, you can still understand their internal landscapes by what they seee and notice. How do these external indicators help us understand the internal worlds of the characters? 


We mention two infographics during the episode– “Intersections of Self (Trauma Points)" and “Axes of Power."  These are available on Patreon (they’re posted publicly, so anyone can view them!) Feel free to use them in your own writing, and let us know if you find them helpful! 


Thing of the Week: “Bodies” (on Netflix) 


Homework: Pick a major character in your story and write two short summaries of the character arc, one using your original motivation and goal, and a second with a different motivation but the same goal.


Liner Notes: 

Sandra Tayler's new book, Structuring Life To Support Creativity. Preorder your copy today at sandratayler.com! 


And help fund Mary Robinette Kowal’s Silent Spaces, a collection of short stories on Kickstarter here: 

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mary-robinette/silent-spaces?ref=nav_search&result=project&term=silent%20spaces%20

(Or go to kickstarter.com and type in “Silent Spaces”) 


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Credits: Your hosts for this episode were DongWon Song and Erin Roberts. Our guest was Arkady Martine. It was produced by Emma Reynolds, recorded by Marshall Carr, Jr., and mastered by Alex Jackson.

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