20.26: Gaming as a Writing Metaphor

20.26: Gaming as a Writing Metaphor

Author: Mary Robinette Kowal, DongWon Song, Erin Roberts, Dan Wells, and Howard Tayler June 29, 2025 Duration: 26:07
What separates the way we experience a game versus the way we experience a prose narrative? Erin Roberts has written for many games, and she loves games particularly because they give the person experiencing the narrative more choice and more direct agency over what happens. This changes the way that we experience story. When you’re writing a game, the main thing you have to figure out is the actions: what are the potential things that could happen—and therefore, what are the verbs? We dive into decision, audience buy in, and ultimately try to answer the question: what does gaming teach us about making and finding meaning? Homework: Take a project you’re working on and imagine that someone is making a game of it. What would that game be? What would be the actions that the characters would be doing? What would be the part of the world that the game would be focused on? Feel free to look at examples of this (like the games that were made based on Lord of the Rings.) P.S. Our 2025 writing retreat (on a cruise! In Mexico!) is over 50% sold out! Learn more and sign up here. Credits: Your hosts for this episode were Dan Wells, DongWon Song, Erin Roberts, and Howard Tayler. It was produced by Emma Reynolds, recorded by Marshall Carr, Jr., and mastered by Alex Jackson. Join Our Writing Community! Writing Retreats Newsletter Patreon Instagram Threads Bluesky TikTok YouTube Facebook Our Sponsors: * Check out HomeServe and use my code homeserve.com/excuses for a great deal: https://www.homeserve.com * Check out Talkiatry and use my code Talkiatry.com/WX for a great deal: https://www.talkiatry.com Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/writing-excuses2130/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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14.01: Worldbuilding Begins! Up Front, or On the Fly? [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 21:12
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13.52: Working Dad is a Spaceman [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 20:57
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13.51: Wrap-up on the Year of Character [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 25:28
Your Hosts: Brandon, Valynne, Dan, and Howard We decided to wrap up this year on character by letting Brandon ask us some deep questions. "We decided" might be the wrong phrase, because nobody except Brandon knew what th…
13.50: What Writers Get Wrong, with Zoraida Córdova [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 20:24
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13.49: How to Finish [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 19:25
Your Hosts: Brandon, Mary Robinette, Amal, and Maurice Last week we talked about character death. This week we talk about other, less fatal ways in which a character story can be finished, and how we, as writers, can tel…
13.48: Character Death and Plot Armor [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 20:17
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13.47: Q&A on Fixing Characters [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 18:44
Your Hosts: Brandon, Valynne, Dan, and Howard You had questions about fixing character problems. We had had answers! Here are the questions: * How do you fix character voices when you find out that two of them are too si…
13.46: The Unsexy Side of Space, with Bart Smith and Ben Hewett [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 27:26
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NaNoWriMo 2018 Bonus Episode, with Mercedes Lackey [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 16:44
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13.45: Next Level Narration [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 21:41
Your Hosts: Brandon, Mary Robinette, Amal, and Maurice Narration is that stuff which tells your story, but isn't dialog. It's the voice of your narrator, and it might be multiple voices depending on how you're handling p…