20.26: Gaming as a Writing Metaphor

20.26: Gaming as a Writing Metaphor

Author: Mary Robinette Kowal, DongWon Song, Erin Roberts, Dan Wells, and Howard Tayler June 29, 2025 Duration: 26:07
What separates the way we experience a game versus the way we experience a prose narrative? Erin Roberts has written for many games, and she loves games particularly because they give the person experiencing the narrative more choice and more direct agency over what happens. This changes the way that we experience story. When you’re writing a game, the main thing you have to figure out is the actions: what are the potential things that could happen—and therefore, what are the verbs? We dive into decision, audience buy in, and ultimately try to answer the question: what does gaming teach us about making and finding meaning? Homework: Take a project you’re working on and imagine that someone is making a game of it. What would that game be? What would be the actions that the characters would be doing? What would be the part of the world that the game would be focused on? Feel free to look at examples of this (like the games that were made based on Lord of the Rings.) P.S. Our 2025 writing retreat (on a cruise! In Mexico!) is over 50% sold out! Learn more and sign up here. Credits: Your hosts for this episode were Dan Wells, DongWon Song, Erin Roberts, and Howard Tayler. It was produced by Emma Reynolds, recorded by Marshall Carr, Jr., and mastered by Alex Jackson. Join Our Writing Community! Writing Retreats Newsletter Patreon Instagram Threads Bluesky TikTok YouTube Facebook Our Sponsors: * Check out HomeServe and use my code homeserve.com/excuses for a great deal: https://www.homeserve.com * Check out Talkiatry and use my code Talkiatry.com/WX for a great deal: https://www.talkiatry.com Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/writing-excuses2130/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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12.50: Form and Function [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 23:00
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12.49: Non-linear Narratives [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 17:40
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12.48: Q&A on Novels and Series, with Brian McClellan [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 25:01
Brian McClellan joined us to field questions about writing novels and series. Here are the questions: * How do you write an ending that is open for sequels, but isn't a cliffhanger? * Is it a good idea to take a large no…
12.47: Screenwriting and the Writers Room, with JD Payne [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 19:18
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12.46: Reinventing Yourself [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 21:20
Your Hosts: Brandon, Mary, Mary Anne, and Wesley We discuss the idea of "reinventing yourself," which can mean anything from "trying something new" to "completely re-branding yourself as a writer," and how it's a difficu…
12.45: Structuring a Series [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 23:11
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12.44: NaNoWriMo 2017 Primer [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 18:41
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12.43: Serialized Storytelling [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 22:26
Your Hosts: Brandon, Piper, Dan, and Howard We're talking about the extreme long-form serial story here, and how to keep things interesting without forcing the main characters into an absurdly high number of character-de…
12.42: Adapting Your Stories for Game Play, with Alan Bahr [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 14:28
Your Hosts: Mary, Dan, and Howard, with guest host Beth Meacham Alan Bahr of Ragnarok Publications, joined us at LTUE 2017 to talk about adapting a licensed property for a game, and preserving the feel of the work while…
12.41: Raising the Stakes [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 20:16
Your Hosts: Brandon, Mary, Mary Anne, and Wesley When we talk about "raising the stakes," we mean making the outcomes of the events in a story increasingly important to the reader. In this episode we talk about the tools…