21.24: Deconstructing the Seven Point Plot Structure

21.24: Deconstructing the Seven Point Plot Structure

Author: Mary Robinette Kowal, DongWon Song, Erin Roberts, Dan Wells, and Howard Tayler June 14, 2026 Duration: 35:07
Dan Wells joins our conversation as we break down the seven-point plot structure! Using examples from Star Wars, Toy Story, and other films, we discuss how each point creates conflict, drives character growth, and moves a story forward. We explore the difference between plot points that move characters toward their goals and pinch points that place obstacles in their way. We also examine how the midpoint shifts a protagonist from reacting to events to taking action. And remember– seven-point structure is a flexible tool that can be adapted to many different kinds of stories! Homework: Take a subplot from a story you're working on and map it onto the seven-point plot structure. Start with the resolution, identify the opposite starting state for the hook, then sketch out the plot points, pinch points, and midpoint to see how the subplot develops from beginning to end. Final WXR Cruise! Our final WXR cruise is sold out, but you can join our waitlist here! Credits: Your hosts for this episode were Dan Wells, Mary Robinette Kowal, Howard Tayler, Erin Roberts, and DongWon Song. It was produced by Emma Reynolds, recorded by Marshall Carr, Jr., and mastered by Alex Jackson. Join Our Writing Community! Writing Retreats Newsletter Patreon Instagram Threads Bluesky TikTok YouTube Facebook Our Sponsors: * Check out MasterClass and use my code masterclass.com/EXCUSES for a great deal: https://MasterClass.com * Check out Talkiatry and use my code talkiatry.com/WX for a great deal: https://www.talkiatry.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Duration: 26:02
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Duration: 23:31
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21.37: Barrier Breaking: The World Is on Fire [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 28:05
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21.36: Twists: How to Make the Unexpected Feel Inevitable [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 23:47
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21.35: The Four Acts of Kishōtenketsu [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 21:43
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21.34: Knowing the Distance [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 23:35
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21.33: When To Shift Gears [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 22:30
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21.32: Barrier Breaking- Time Constraints [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 27:51
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21.31: Deconstructing Save the Cat [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 27:22
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21.30: Chapter Breaks Soon [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 27:56
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