In this special follow-up, Kyle, Cleo and Bear Goes Long sit down with Sean Sawyer, co-founder of Sound Performance Psychology, to discuss the psychological challenges they currently face. Cleo shares her struggles with managing emotions during trades, particularly the frustration of exiting trades too early. Sean provides insights into the emotional responses traders experience, highlighting the importance of self-awareness, compassion, and understanding one’s limitations.
The discussion touches on the value of community and experiential learning in improving trading performance. Bear Goes Long opens up about self-sabotage in trading, influenced by childhood experiences and emotional regulation, and explores the role of personal history in shaping trading behavior. The conversation also delves into themes of leadership, personal growth, and balancing motivation with addiction in trading.
Participants emphasize understanding personal values and integrating them into trading practices, discussing how relationships, especially with spouses, influence trading decisions. They explore the psychological resistance traders face, the necessity of psychological work, and the complexity of self-discovery. The episode underscores the importance of self-reflection, authenticity, and the role of argumentation in developing a strong sense of self in both trading and life.
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About Sean:
Sean Sawyer, a licensed psychotherapist since 2003, whose journey into the world of stock trading in the mid-2010s led him to become a full-time trader by 2017. Sean’s unique expertise lies at the intersection of psychology and trading, blending his in-depth understanding of human behavior with practical trading experience in shared trading commons, options, and futures.
Sean’s work in psychological trauma has been pivotal in shaping his approach to performance psychology. With a rich background in clinical settings, hospitals, universities, and private practice, he excels in helping individuals manage real and perceived threats—skills that are crucial for decision-making in high-pressure situations. His performance coaching, which began in 2010, spans corporate professionals, athletes, and performers, focusing on the mastery of threat response and resilience.
Known for his candid, evidence-based approach, Sean emphasizes the importance of confronting and transforming deep-seated patterns and beliefs. His performance coaching bridges the challenges of psychological resilience and high-stakes decision-making, offering invaluable insights for thriving in both personal and professional arenas.
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About Cleo:
Cleo has been learning to trade for the past 3 years and is an active member of the Vanta community. She came to trading through the angle of personal development, and she sees trading as an amazing way to get to know oneself as well as expand one's capacities. Cleo's professional background is in leadership development and facilitation. She has facilitated thousands to communicate in authentic and compelling ways. She loves being in the seat of curiosity. Cleo has worked with executives, corporate groups, religious groups, middle school students, groups of women, families, and couples. Her current focus is the CA criminal legal system, advocating for holistic approaches such as restorative justice and community-based violence prevention. Having played in the crypto and futures markets for the last three years, Cleo sees trading as one of the most challenging things to undertake and is particularly interested in what it takes to become a consistently profitable and well-rounded trader.
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Bear:
Bear made the transition from investing to trading at the beginning of COVID. After initial success with options, he quickly learned that his luck was greater than his skill and shifted his focus to futures. Bear has fully embraced the role of emotions and mental capital with the mindset that trading futures is purely an internal struggle that rewards patience, calm, bravery, focus, passion, and commitment. Beyond markets Bear finds joy in his community as a volunteer firefighter and EMT.
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