373: What's it like treating Borderline Personality Disorder (pt. 2) (ft. Setareh Vatan)

373: What's it like treating Borderline Personality Disorder (pt. 2) (ft. Setareh Vatan)

Author: Melanie Curtin August 8, 2025 Duration: 1:27:38

A whole bunch of our clients have related with either parents or partners with BPD (or BPD traits). Here we go into even more depth around the origins of BPD, and what you can do as a partner if this is something you're contending with. We answer questions like:

  • When you “cross” someone with BPD, they often want to punish you / make you suffer. Why?
  • Why are folks with BPD traits so sensitive to rejection?
  • Does BPD show up differently in women vs. men? We often hear about BPD women — why is that? 
  • What do you do if you've noticed that your partner has BPD traits?
  • How do you know when it's time to leave the relationship vs. stay and work on it?

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Mentioned on this episode:

  • Dear Men episode 354: What it's like treating BPD (pt. 1)
  • Setareh Vatan's Psychology Today profile
  • Book: Stop Walking on Eggshells: Taking Your Life Back When Someone You Care About Has Borderline Personality Disorder
  • Book: Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents: How to Heal from Distant, Rejecting, or Self-Involved Parents

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Memorable quotes from this episode:

  • “Love alone doesn’t fix unaddressed wounds.”
  • “When the inner experience feels unbearable, sometimes acting out anger feels like the only way to bridge the gap.”
  • “‘I’m in pain; don’t leave me; come back.’”
  • “Your partner is more than their defenses. That said, loving someone with BPD traits can be intense.”
  • “Boundaries are not abandonment.”
  • “‘I can see this feels really scary for you.’”
  • “There’s usually a younger part asking, ‘Do I matter to you?’”
  • “‘You matter to me. I’m not leaving you. I care when these things get hard.’”
  • “This can erode your sense of self over time.”
  • “I understand you feel abandoned when you don’t hear from me right away. I wasn’t ignoring you; I was in a meeting.”
  • “Compassion for the person with BPD doesn’t mean excusing harm.”
  • “BPD reflects unmet emotional needs and trauma.”
  • “I’m the adult here that’s going to create that safety.”
  • “I thought you were saying that I’m damaged, un-fixable, or broken.”
  • “Underneath intensity is usually someone who longs for stability and connection.”
  • “You can’t love someone’s pain away, but your steadiness, boundaries and compassion can make a difference.”
  • “A healthy relationship requires BOTH people’s willingness to grow.”
  • “I believe it’s possible for anyone to heal.”

Melanie Curtin hosts Dear Men: How to Rock Sex, Dating, and Relationships With Women, a space where curiosity meets practical change. This isn't about memorizing pick-up lines or playing games; it's built on the idea that genuine personal growth is the most attractive quality a man can develop. The conversations here move beyond surface-level tips to explore the deeper dynamics of connection, drawing from insights across health, culture, and psychology. You'll hear from women who offer a candid look into what fosters real attraction and lasting partnership, providing a valuable perspective often missing from mainstream advice. Each episode tackles the honest questions and challenges men face, whether navigating early dating, deepening intimacy, or building a resilient marriage. The focus is always on actionable understanding-how to listen, communicate, and show up in ways that are both authentic and effective. Tune in for a podcast that respects your intelligence and meets you where you are, offering a blend of straightforward talk and nuanced discussion that can reshape how you approach every aspect of your life with women. It's for any man ready to move past confusion and toward more meaningful, fulfilling connections.
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