Future of Kubernetes with Brendan Burns

Future of Kubernetes with Brendan Burns

Author: Bret Fisher August 11, 2023 Duration: 1:04:51
DevOps and Docker Talk: Cloud Native Interviews and Tooling
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Bret and Matt welcome special guest Brendan Burns, CVP Azure Cloud Native & Resource Management, and also a founding member of the Kubernetes project.

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Because Brendan is one of the three original co-founders of the Kubernetes project back in 2013 at Google, he's a little bit internet famous in open source and Cloud Native. So I was a little nervous going into this because I had so many questions.

We took some live questions as we always do from YouTube live, and I thought it was a really great episode of a little mix of talking about Azure and some of the things you can do with containers, some of the things they're working on, some of the things that he's focused on that we haven't seen yet. We talk about AI and how that relates to some of these things.

We even talk about WASM or WebAssembly, one of my favorite topics of the last year, because that's important so it was great to get his perspective.

And I think my favorite part of the show is where we really talk about the next layers of abstraction, or maybe even the ways that we can deploy to Kubernetes or make it simpler to manage and deploy to. And that's been a real challenge for the community ever since Kubernetes was created in making it more accessible to more people, without it being so complex to manage and deal with underneath. And Brendan has some really great views on what it's going to take it to get us there.

Live recording of the complete show from June 15, 2023 is on YouTube (Ep. #221).

★Topics★
Ways to run containers on Azure
Dapr
WebAssembly on Azure Kubernetes
Wasmtime
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Creators & Guests
  • (00:00) - Intro
  • (05:27) - Introducing Brendan
  • (11:04) - Advice for starting to run containers
  • (32:47) - Reducing complexity with AI
  • (36:58) - Addressing DevOps fatigue
  • (44:55) - Running WebAssembly on Kubernetes
  • (56:40) - LTS Linux Distributions
  • (01:01:45) - What's next after containers and orchestration?

Bret Fisher hosts DevOps and Docker Talk: Cloud Native Interviews and Tooling alongside Nirmal Mehta, pulling conversations directly from their live audience sessions. This isn't a theoretical lecture series; it's grounded in the practical, often messy realities of building and running modern systems. Each episode digs into the specific tools and philosophies shaping infrastructure today, from the foundational elements like Docker and container orchestration with Kubernetes or Swarm to the broader cultural shifts of DevOps, SRE, and platform engineering. You'll hear discussions that span the entire software lifecycle, touching on the integration of security with DevSecOps, the automation promises of GitOps, and what "Cloud Native" truly means for development teams. The dialogue stays focused on actionable insights and real-world use cases, offering a genuine sense of what works and what doesn't in the field. For anyone navigating the container and cloud ecosystem, this podcast serves as a regular, insightful check-in with practitioners and experts, hosted by someone deeply embedded in the community. The natural, interview-driven format makes complex topics accessible, ensuring listeners come away with more than just buzzwords-they get context and clarity.
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