GA 640 | Optimistic Fear with Cornelia Choe

GA 640 | Optimistic Fear with Cornelia Choe

Author: Ron Pereira: Lean Thinker & Co-Founder of Gemba Academy July 9, 2026 Duration: 33:11
Most leaders think their biggest risk is making the wrong call. Cornelia Choe argues the real danger comes earlier, when a leader stops questioning the mental map they're using to make calls in the first place. In her book The Panoramic Leader, co-authored with Marshall Goldsmith, Cornelia builds a case that continuous change has made the old leadership playbook obsolete. The world stopped being a predictable highway, and too many leaders are still staring at the rearview mirror. In this episode you'll learn: What the quote "Achievement is all about me, but leadership is all about them" really means (3:33) Why continuous change broke the old model of leadership (6:49) How the GEM method helps leaders navigate constant change (9:52) Why G must come before E in the GEM sequence (11:31) How panoramic leadership builds on go-and-see (13:15) What mapping your evolving perspective actually looks like in practice (17:44) Why success is the most dangerous place to stop learning (23:25) What optimistic fear is and why courage alone is not enough (26:25) Three questions that pull leaders out of autopilot (29:40) "One of the greatest dangers we can have is to stop mapping." - Cornelia Choe Keep Learning If Cornelia's point about seeing the system from multiple angles resonated, the School of Leadership can help you build the habits that turn that awareness into consistent practice. Learn More About School of Leadership at https://www.gembaacademy.com/leadership Podcast Resources Cornelia's Website Cornelia on LinkedIn "The Panoramic Leader" Get All the Latest News from Gemba Academy Stay current on new courses, podcast episodes, and continuous improvement resources. Sign up for the Gemba Academy newsletter at gembaacademy.com/news What Do You Think? When did you last seriously question whether the mental map guiding your decisions still reflects the reality around you?

Hosted by Ron Pereira, a lean thinker and co-founder of Gemba Academy, the Gemba Academy Podcast is a deep and practical resource for anyone looking to build a better organization. The conversations here move beyond theory, focusing on the real-world application of methodologies like Lean Six Sigma and Toyota Kata. You’ll hear from practitioners and leaders who share stories from the front lines, detailing how they tackle complex problems, foster genuine productivity, and develop effective teams. Each episode feels like a candid workshop, breaking down concepts into actionable steps you can apply immediately. This isn't about abstract ideals; it's about the tangible work of improvement, from the shop floor to the executive suite. Tune in for a learning experience that challenges conventional wisdom and provides the tools for meaningful change. The Gemba Academy Podcast turns the philosophy of continuous improvement into a clear and accessible path forward for business professionals and educators alike.
Author: Language: en-us Episodes: 50

Gemba Academy Podcast: Lean Six Sigma | Toyota Kata | Productivity | Leadership
Podcast Episodes
GA 629 | Why Leadership Is Like Cooking with Pete Behrens [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 35:19
This week's guest is Pete Behrens. Ron and Pete discussed Pete's book, "Into the Fog," what it means for leaders to face uncertainty, why leadership is like cooking, and more. An MP3 audio version of this episode is avai…
GA 628 | A Factory on Fire: How Lean Saves Lives with Brian Meyers [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 29:48
This week's guest is Brian Meyers. Ron and Brian discussed the heart-stopping story of how Brian's facility caught fire, the profound difference lean made in saving it, what "unwavering commitment" means, and more. An MP…
GA 626 | Learning to See Waste with Randall Dupre [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 27:07
This week's guest is Randall Dupre. Ron and Randall discussed Randall's book, "Everyday Lean," the kinds of mistakes Randall sees people making, what good leadership looks like, his favorite lean principles, and more. An…
GA 625 | Dealing with Hidden Threats with Dean Svarc [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 22:42
This week's guest is Dean Svarc. Ron and Dean discussed Dean's book, "Trojan Horse," navigating hidden threats, why culture matters, the mistakes leaders make, and more. An MP3 audio version of this episode is available…
GA 624 | The Pause, Consider, Act Framework with Ashley Herd [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 29:12
This week's guest is Ashley Herd. Ron and Ashley discussed Ashley's Pause, Consider, Act Framework, the concept of a career quilt, micromanagement, and more. An MP3 audio version of this episode is available for download…
GA 623 | The Power of Entropy with Adam Lawrence [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 23:29
This week's guest is Adam Lawrence. Ron and Adam discussed Adam's Wheel of Sustainability, the importance of continuously improving, what his Sustainability System assessment is trying to solve, and more. An MP3 audio ve…
GA 622 | The State of AI with Steven Remsen [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 26:41
This week's guest is Steven Remsen. Ron and Steven discussed Steven's time at Intel, how to make change "stick" at a large organization, what Steven sees organizations struggling with, the current state of AI, and more.…
GA 621 | The Five Habits of Hope with Dr. Julia Garcia [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 35:59
This week's guest is Dr. Julia Garcia. Ron and Julia discussed Julia's book, "The Five Habits of Hope," the power of resilience, the role hope plays in problem-solving, and more. An MP3 audio version of this episode is a…