Dr. Steve Elias: The Power of a Shoulder Tap

Dr. Steve Elias: The Power of a Shoulder Tap

Author: Chris Schembra January 28, 2025 Duration: 58:49

Welcome back to another episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times! Today, your host Chris Schembra is joined by the insightful and inspiring Dr. Steve Elias, Dean of the Katz School of Business at Fort Lewis College in Durango, Colorado. Amidst the polar vortex sweeping through New York City, we dive into a heartwarming discussion about mentorship, leadership, and the power of gratitude in shaping our personal and professional journeys. Tune in as we explore how small acts of kindness, mutual respect, and a commitment to connection can create a lasting impact in our lives and communities.

In This Episode, You’ll Learn:

  • How a simple shoulder tap can change the course of a career
  • The importance of mentorship and building reciprocal relationships
  • Lessons from Governor Gary Carruthers on leadership and respect across differences
  • Why celebrating the success of others (Mudita) is key to fulfillment
  • The Platinum Rule: Treating others the way they want to be treated
  • How small, cumulative actions can create meaningful change
  • Practical ways to express gratitude, even to those who are no longer with us

Guest Bio: Dr. Steve Elias is an experienced and approachable leader who knows how to bring people together and create positive change. As the Dean of the Katz School of Business at Fort Lewis College, he has worked hard to improve teamwork, build partnerships, and develop strategies that make a real difference for students, staff, faculty members, and the community. Steve is known for being down-to-earth and easy to talk to, with a leadership style based on open communication, fairness, and collaboration. With a background in applied social psychology and years of experience at Minority Serving Institutions, he understands people’s needs and makes them feel included and supported. Steve has a gift for inspiring others, building strong relationships, and finding creative ways to help organizations grow and succeed.

Episode Highlights:

  • [00:03:15] Chris introduces Dr. Steve Elias and the story of how they met in Durango, Colorado.
  • [00:07:45] Steve shares his gratitude for Governor Gary Carruthers and the pivotal moment he was "tapped on the shoulder."
  • [00:14:30] The Platinum Rule in leadership: why treating people how they want to be treated matters.
  • [00:21:10] Finding joy in the success of others - the power of Mudita.
  • [00:28:50] Overcoming the challenge of appreciating personal accomplishments without feeling egotistical.
  • [00:35:20] Chris and Steve reflect on the impact of small, everyday acts of gratitude.
  • [00:42:10] Exploring the legacy of Bob Graetz and his contributions to the civil rights movement.
  • [00:49:00] Practical advice for leaders on building a culture of recognition and gratitude in the workplace.

Resources Mentioned:

  • ResearchGate profile of Dr. Steve Elias
  • Deviant and Criminal Behavior in the Workplace by Dr. Steve Elias
  • Maria’s Bookshop in Durango, Colorado
  • The Platinum Rule concept
  • Harvard Study on Adult Development by Dr. Robert Waldinger
  • A&E Biography of Bob Graetz

Key Takeaways:

  • Celebrate the success of others and recognize the role you’ve played in their journey.
  • Small gestures, like lighting a candle or sending a kind message, have a profound impact.
  • Gratitude should be practiced daily and can help overcome regret and guilt.
  • Leaders should focus on relationship-building and understanding their team’s unique needs.

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Chris Schembra, known as the "Gratitude Guru" by USA Today and a columnist for Rolling Stone, hosts Gratitude Through Hard Times. For nearly a decade, he has traveled the globe facilitating meaningful human connection, work that extends directly from his #1 Wall Street Journal bestselling book of the same name. In this podcast, he moves beyond simple self-help platitudes, creating a space where ancient Stoic wisdom meets contemporary neuroscience and psychology. Each episode is a practical exploration of how to find genuine appreciation and resilience not in spite of difficulty, but because of it. Schembra acts as both guide and fellow traveler, using his experience as a dinner host and facilitator to frame profound questions and share conversations that dissect the mechanics of fulfillment. Listeners will hear a blend of personal narrative, philosophical insight, and actionable science, all aimed at reframing life's inevitable challenges. This isn't about blind optimism; it's about building a durable, grounded perspective that serves in both business and personal relationships, in moments of entrepreneurial stress and cultural shifts. The Gratitude Through Hard Times podcast provides a thoughtful, evidence-based toolkit for anyone seeking to cultivate a deeper sense of purpose and connection in a complex world, proving that gratitude is a skill forged precisely when it feels most out of reach.
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