Sandra Lopez: Delulu Soul Searching

Sandra Lopez: Delulu Soul Searching

Author: Chris Schembra June 25, 2026 Duration: 43:05

"You are always a student, never a master." This simple principle serves as the heartbeat for a life dedicated to authentic human depth. In a world optimized for digital efficiency and "frictionless" convenience, the true currency of a meaningful life remains the unscalable power of independent thought, presence, and intentional effort.
 

In this episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times, Sandra Lopez explores the growing cultural movement of human connection, healing, and the unexpected ways we tune back into our personal truths. Sandra shares insights from her personal journey, including navigating a high-stakes executive career at tech giants like Intel, Adobe, and Microsoft, confronting a pivotal 360-feedback review that labeled her a "robot," and utilizing the forced pause of the COVID-19 pandemic to embark on a radical road of self-discovery through Kabbalah. Together, the conversation dives into how we show up for our teams with deep empathy, the power of using technology as a contrarian force, and how choosing a messy, non-traditional path allows leaders to trade superficial ego validation for lasting, soul-led growth.
 

10 Memorable Quotes:

  1. "Business is business, and you keep your personal life separate."
  2. "Until, you know, maybe two years into, uh, my management, I got my 360 feedback, and, feedback is a gift."
  3. "One of my team members said, 'I don't know Sandra. She seems to be like a robot.'"
  4. "A good leader delivers results, but how do you become a great leader? And the great leader is the understanding that we are all humans."
  5. "The greatest gift that I get isn't my bonus. It's the little emails that I get..."
  6. "I'm 53 and I would say most of my lifespan, was probably giving gratitude very superficially."
  7. "Am I doing this for my ego or am I doing this for my soul? And that's a very hard transition actually."
  8. "The soul responds to the soul. So when, if you're starting your own business and you really focus on what's the soul of the company... Humans are gonna respond to that."
  9. "The moments, the hardest moments of my life was when I saw exponential growth."
  10. "Be delusionally... Be delusional about finding your soul. How's that? DeLulo"

10 Key Takeaways:

  • The Character Test of Feedback: Why embracing uncomfortable 360-degree reviews and extracting truth from critical peer assessments is infinitely better than building an inner circle of enablers.
  • Good vs. Great Leadership: Understanding the stark reality of corporate metrics, where delivering OKRs only makes you a good leader, while a great leader prioritizes the unscalable human-to-human capacity.
  • The Hidden Debt of the Ego: Recognizing the profound impact of modern business systems and digital platforms like LinkedIn, which function as machines engineered to feed external images rather than internal truths.
  • The Evolving Rules of Tech: Dealing with the modern reality of AI engagement, choosing to use technology strictly as a contrarian tool to challenge strategic blind spots rather than a superficial echo chamber to validate existing bias.
  • The Value of Trailing Humans: Processing the bittersweet realization that while tools can assist operations, chatbots lack a conscience, meaning true personal breakthroughs require stepping away from screens to converse with a real human being.
  • Remembering COVID's Gift: Reclaiming the narrative around global and personal hardships by extending genuine gratitude to a crisis that forced a necessary internal pause and deep ancestral self-discovery.
  • Systemic vs. Soul Presence: Learning that showing up authentically requires skipping rigid, traditional expectations of how leaders "should" live or format their personal partnerships and spaces.
  • Sitting in the SAVERS Routine: A look at how intentional daily habits form resilience, utilizing quiet mornings dedicated to silence, gratitude, visualization, exercise, contrarian reading, and scribing.
  • Certainty and Intuition: How dialing into your core intuition prompts people to pause, providing an unshakeable confidence that overrides logical fears when making massive career pivots.
  • The Micro-Intervention of the Zag: How breaking past a commoditized, fast-paced, and highly automated corporate landscape to bring the purposeful messiness of the soul back into business is the ultimate competitive advantage.

About our Guest:

Growing up with a relentless work ethic shaped the foundation of Sandra Lopez's purpose-driven approach to leadership. Guided by the personal philosophy that "you are always a student, never a master," she learned early that true wisdom requires a lifelong commitment to unlearning, learning, and continuously putting one foot in front of the other, no matter how grueling the path becomes. Raised to appreciate the delicate balance between high-stakes profit metrics and a deep responsibility to give back, those early values instilled in her a lasting dedication to community advocacy, representation, and leading with radical transparency.

After entering the technology workforce, Sandra discovered a deep passion for driving corporate transformation at an elite level, spending over twenty years holding executive and leadership roles at iconic global brands including Intel, Adobe, and serving as the former CMO of Microsoft Advertising. What began as a traditional path focused on hard business outcomes evolved into a fulfilling calling as the CEO of Ambi Ventures, where she partners with ambitious businesses to provide elite fractional CMO services, advisory expertise, and investments. Dedicated to being an active advocate for Latina executives across America and serving as a co-chair for the World Economic Forum's AR/VR Model Commission, Sandra believes that integrating empathy and humanity into corporate spaces is at the heart of meaningful growth. Outside of her advisory career, she stays actively involved in exploring diverse spiritual and mindfulness practices like Kabbalah, prioritizing intentional morning routines, and inspiring the next generation of leaders to look past the ego to connect deeply with their soul's true purpose.


Chris Schembra, known as the "Gratitude Guru" by USA Today and a columnist for Rolling Stone, hosts Gratitude Through Hard Times. For nearly a decade, he has traveled the globe facilitating meaningful human connection, work that extends directly from his #1 Wall Street Journal bestselling book of the same name. In this podcast, he moves beyond simple self-help platitudes, creating a space where ancient Stoic wisdom meets contemporary neuroscience and psychology. Each episode is a practical exploration of how to find genuine appreciation and resilience not in spite of difficulty, but because of it. Schembra acts as both guide and fellow traveler, using his experience as a dinner host and facilitator to frame profound questions and share conversations that dissect the mechanics of fulfillment. Listeners will hear a blend of personal narrative, philosophical insight, and actionable science, all aimed at reframing life's inevitable challenges. This isn't about blind optimism; it's about building a durable, grounded perspective that serves in both business and personal relationships, in moments of entrepreneurial stress and cultural shifts. The Gratitude Through Hard Times podcast provides a thoughtful, evidence-based toolkit for anyone seeking to cultivate a deeper sense of purpose and connection in a complex world, proving that gratitude is a skill forged precisely when it feels most out of reach.
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