Ches Smith

Ches Smith

Author: Hank Shteamer July 9, 2019 Duration: 2:18:01
To call drummer Ches Smith merely versatile would be selling him way short. He's played the most advanced jazz with artists such as Tim Berne and massively heavy rock with bands like Theory of Ruin, and covered just about every point in between with projects like Marc Ribot's Ceramic Dog and Trevor Dunn's Trio-Convulsant. In this conversation, he discusses his early years playing Poison covers, how he absorbed the the language of bebop drumming, his time on the road with Mr. Bungle, the inner-workings of Trio-Convulsant and Theory of Ruin (a band that featured former Fudge Tunnel and Nailbomb guitarist-vocalist Alex Newport), what he learned from touring alongside Slayer's Dave Lombardo and the Melvins' Dale Crover, the metal metamorphosis of Good for Cows (his duo with bassist Devin Hoff), how he was eventually able to bring his full range of jazz and rock know-how to the table in a single setting, and much more. To learn more about Ches, go to chessmith.com.

For seven years, the conversations of Heavy Metal Bebop lived as detailed written interviews, exploring a fascinating musical borderland where blistering guitar riffs meet complex improvisation. Hosted by critic and player Hank Shteamer, this podcast now gives voice to those dialogues, featuring long-form talks with notable artists who operate where jazz and heavy metal collide. Each episode is built on a deep, shared understanding of craft, moving beyond superficial comparisons to uncover the shared spirit of intensity, technical ambition, and raw expression that fuels both genres. Listeners hear musicians-whether they identify more with saxophone solos or double-kick drums-discuss their influences, dissect specific recordings, and reveal the often-surprising connections between these two powerful musical worlds. It’s a series for anyone curious about the threads linking John Coltrane to Black Sabbath, or who finds equal thrill in a spiraling free-jazz passage and a crushing doom-metal riff. Hank Shteamer guides these explorations with a journalist’s precision and a fan’s enthusiasm, creating a space where genre boundaries are meant to be dissolved. The result is a consistently revealing podcast that challenges narrow definitions of what music can be, offering a unique and enduring listen for dedicated fans of either scene, or for those discovering the potent alchemy of their fusion.
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