9. Good Artists Copy; Great Artists Steal // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 6

9. Good Artists Copy; Great Artists Steal // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 6

Author: Mama Bear Studios September 4, 2018 Duration: 56:35

The War on Drugs // Here’s the music video for “Pain,” a song from his new album Thinking of a Place. Adam Granduciel, the main creative force behind the band happens to be from Philadelphia, which is also Zay’s home town and right across the river from Jon’s.

“Good artists borrow, great artists steal” - Pablo Picasso (?)

Robert Altman on Wikipedia

Oliver Stone (not Robert Altman) directed Born on the Fourth of July in 1989. It stars, guess who? Tommy Cruise himself.

Mumblecore // It’s fine. It’s also not technically a thing. It’s just a sub-genre.

52:00 // We’re launching a new show within a show! It’s called This is What You Should Watch!

Bo Burnham // Amazing young director of Eighth Grade

  • Here’s the trailer for Eighth Grade (2018) released by A24.
  • Watch his standup special Make Happy on Netflix.

@DadBoner AKA Karl Welzein // One of the greatest comedy experiments ever done on social media. Here’s his Twitter account.

Here’s the link to the police station castle, which really does look like a castle!!!

Paul Thomas Anderson //

  • Watch the Boogie Nights (1997) trailer here.
  • At the time of this release it’s still on Netflix here.
  • Warning: extremely graphic material and some violence.

Michael Arndt, the patron saint of Mama Bear Studios // Here’s his IMDB. He was nominated for an Oscar for Toy Story 3 (2010) and won the oscar for best original screenplay for Little Miss Sunshine (2006).

Austin Film Festival // Easily one of the best festivals I’ve ever attended (especially for screenwriters). It starts Thursday, October 25, 2018.

The Driskill Hotel, where Michael Arndt bought Zay drinks with his Star Wars money.

1:11:00 // Time for the Mail Bag (subject to change)

“The Fever” // The song that turned Jon into a Bruce Springsteen fan (at least for now)

Squatty Potty // Their video is amazing and informative.

Indonesian bathrooms are a little tricky for westerners

Wes Anderson // Zay’s earliest cinematic influence

  • Rushmore (1998)
  • The Royal Tenenbaums (2001)
  • The Life Aquatic (2004)

FilmGrab // An amazing resource for finding film stills online

This is how Wild Horses, by the Rolling Stones is supposed to sound.

Here’s a link to a full concert of Led Zeppelin Live in 1970. It just doesn’t make sense how powerful and creative these guys were. Also, how do they make that hair look cool?












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A Mama Bear Studios Production // Mama Bear Studios’ Website

Produced by: Isaiah Smallman

Edited by: Roger Middenway (rogermiddenway.com)

Executive Producer: Jon Schimpf

Opening music: "The Get Down," Produced by Summer Dregs

Outro music: Composed and Recorded by Tom Paulus and Max Belz

Cover Art by: Nate Giordano

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Ever feel like you're just winging it, whether in your career or just trying to understand the latest TV show everyone's talking about? That's the spirit of I Guess We'll Do It That Way, a weekly podcast from Mama Bear Studios. Hosts Isaiah and Jon bring a mix of genuine curiosity and comedic relief to their conversations, which always feel more like a chat between friends than a formal interview. They dig into the messy intersection of life and popular culture, but the real heartbeat of the show is their frontline perspective on the film industry. You'll hear firsthand about the unpredictable hustle of producing movies, where the rules change daily and the only constant is the need to adapt. This isn't just industry gossip; it's a candid look at the business, careers, and creative chaos behind the scenes in Hollywood, all filtered through a lens of relatable humor. Tuning into this podcast feels like getting an insider's take without the pretension, where laughs are frequent and the stories are real. Whether they're unpacking a new series or dissecting a latest trend, Isaiah and Jon keep it grounded, making the complexities of entertainment both accessible and genuinely entertaining.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 72

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The boys hit a milestone and celebrate with some wild offers, (review the podcast and win a trip to LA for the premier of Rollers), some self-reflection, and some future plans. Wouldn't be an anniversary episode sans coo…
49: Got No Juice (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 39) [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 21:41
Sick and worn out, Zay and Jon recap the past week in Rollers' post production. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
48:  Revelation Brings Rebirth (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 38) [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 46:54
A message to Zay. A revelation. A new cut. Jon is exposed as a Doubting Thomas. Is Rollers saved? Maybe; but apotheosis is weeks if not months away. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
46. Return of the Draft (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 36) [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 51:52
Zay completes and screens a second cut of Rollers, his first feature film. We discuss the results of said screening and much more.info@mamabearstudios.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
45. Get Off Your Ass Smallman (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 35) [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:05:54
Zay gives us the low down on the podcast history and our numbers; we attempt to reduce those numbers by discussing them. Later we dive into film festivals, Dunbar's Number, Tristan da Cunha, depression, and much much mor…
42. Let The Post Begin (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 32) [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 53:09
The boys review the project thus far, the state of the world, and things to come! Rollers persists. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
41. Sacred and Profane [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 47:35
We return for part two with Henry to discuss the Nephilim, the Garden of Eden, Marilyn Robinson, the pyramids and the widely discredited Serpent Seed Theory--but not Rollers. Also, Jon discovers vaporwave and crams his B…