NAR NXT Grab Bag

NAR NXT Grab Bag

Author: Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson November 13, 2025 Duration: 1:03:57

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Overview

Rob and Greg dig into expectations for the NAR Annual Conference, MLS attendance patterns, and broader industry sentiment heading into 2025. They cover speculation around possible committee decisions, how the settlement fallout is (or isn't) impacting MLS membership and commissions, and the overall vibe leading into the event. The conversation then shifts to affordability, mortgage rates, and the recent proposal of a 50-year mortgage. They close with discussion of a new Zillow/RESPA-related lawsuit, Rocket/Redfin implications, and observations from Zillow Unlock.

Key Takeaways

  • Some MLS leaders are skipping NAR due to light agenda relevance, travel issues, and lack of urgency.

  • Despite settlement fears, MLS membership has not dropped significantly, and commissions have not fallen.

  • Rob argues the industry culture—not MLS policy—has propped up commissions.

  • Greg suggests the settlement was overhyped given limited negative fallout so far.

  • Conversation on affordability explores whether lowering interest rates would meaningfully increase transactions.

  • New Alaska Zillow lawsuit may signal potential RESPA exposure tied to loan-capture strategies.

  • Rocket/Redfin may have structural protection due to W-2 agent model.

  • Zillow Unlock was described as polished, high-end, highly attended by top-producing agents.

  • Vendor experience at Unlock: fewer "newbies," easier conversations, strong integration environment.

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Industry Relations is a weekly conversation hosted by Rob Hahn, also known as The Notorious ROB, and Greg Robertson. It operates at a unique crossroads, examining where the business of real estate collides with and is reshaped by new technology. This isn't a surface-level tech review; the discussion comes from an insider's perspective, built on years of direct experience within the field. Each episode delves into the practical implications of software platforms, shifting market data, and emerging business models that are actively changing how properties are bought, sold, and managed. The hosts analyze trends, debate strategies, and often challenge conventional wisdom, providing a nuanced look at the forces driving change. Listening to this podcast offers a deeper understanding of the operational and entrepreneurial challenges faced by professionals navigating this evolving landscape. You'll hear specific case studies, evaluations of new tools, and forward-looking predictions about what's next for the industry. The tone is direct and informed, reflecting the hosts' deep background, making it essential for anyone invested in the future of real estate as a business. Tune in for thoughtful, weekly analysis that goes beyond the headlines.
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