Dr. Deb MuthSo what if your symptoms aren’t actually your true diagnosis, but rather your body’s response to toxic mold exposure in your living environment.What if there’s now a way to eliminate mold throughout your entire home, even in places you can’t see without tearing down walls or displacing your family for weeks. Today I have an amazing guest with me, and we’re going to talk all fun things about mold and environment.So welcome back to let’s talk wellness. Now the show where we uncover the root causes of chronic illness, explore cutting edge regenerative medicine, and empower you with the tools to heal. I’m Dr. Dab. And today we’re diving into one of the most overlooked threats to your family’s healthhidden mold in your home. And how revolutionary technology is changing mold remediation forever. I’m super excited to have my guest join me today, Courtney. She’s from pure maintenance, a company that’s completely revolutionizing mold removal with their patented dry fog technology. And if you’re someonethat suffers from mold or someone you love is struggling with unexplained neurological symptoms like fatigue, brain fog, chronic headaches, respiratory issues, or autoimmune conditions. You don’t want to leave this episode. This could be life changing for you so as always grab a cup of coffee, tea, or whatever helps you unwind, settle in and let’s get started on uncovering the hidden environmental factors that could be sabotaging your health.Courtney. Welcome to the show. I’m so excited to have you here today.
Courtney Jarman02:30Thank you for having me.
Dr. Deb Muth02:32So tell us a little bit about who you are, and how you got involved in this.
Courtney Jarman02:37Yeah, sure. So my husband and I built a house because we were always scared ofmold problems. And you know, inheriting a house that has, like all different types of, you know, vocs. And so we built a house, and a few years later we noticed some symptoms like Lyme disease symptoms. I had some Lyme disease symptoms. I actually couldn’t walk after the birth of my second child, and my husband had a horrible sinus infection that lasted like 3 weeks, and it wasn’t going away. So at the time I happened to be talking to a friend of mine who he’s a mycologist.and he was basically telling us that we have a fungal problem in our house, like, based on our symptoms. And I was like, it’s like a new house like you’re just wrong about this. He’s like, just call pure maintenance. He could, because he had a fungal problem in his house in Colorado, and him and his girlfriend were getting really sick, and so they called pure maintenance, and they did like a free inspection. They found out there was like some toilet ring that was leaking which you can’t see. You know those are things that you can’t see in your house.They found it, and you know they removed it, and they treated the house. He felt much better, so he told me to call pure maintenance, and we got an inspection, and I had a really high spore level in our home. And I was like freaking out, of course, because I have 2 young kids, you know, and so we had them treat the house, and our symptoms went away. Our symptoms went away beforehe treated the house, because we opened the windows. We went outside. We took antifungals. So we kind of like figured out what it was. So my lyme disease symptoms started to like go away little by little, and then, when we treated the house. We haven’t had any symptoms after that.Oh, can you hear me or no?
Dr. Deb Muth04:21We can hear you. Yep.
Courtney Jarman04:22Okay.
Dr. Deb Muth04:24Can you hear me? Okay? Still.
Courtney Jarman04:25I can hear you. Yeah. Same. Okay, let me know if I’m too loud, because I can adjust it here. But
Dr. Deb Muth04:30Oh, you’re good!
Courtney Jarman04:31Okay, cool. So yeah, we we got a house treated, and I had to ask the guy to come up from Illinois. So I like, you know, booked a bunch of my friends houses to like. Let’s just check your house from old.and he ended up treating a few houses, and you know, I started to investigate because I was a general contractor on our house build. I learned how to build houses. I was like, really into building science, and I found out in our house we had logs that we brought in from outside that I just like left out like that’s fine. Let’s bring them in. They’re dry. There’s no mold right? It’s dry. The house is dry. There’s no mold that’s like the misconception, right? Or like, yeah, there’s like a little mold patch. Here we spilled something on a window, but, like.you know, it’s not a big deal, andended up that we had like a window sill that. A few window sills with moisture on it, plus these logs, and we closed our windows. We kind of live in a cabin, so we have no Hvac. That’s like circulating air. So the combination of the the high spore level, and like probably high humidity, and like low air, flow in our house caused a mold problem. So I started educating myself on this. Andyou know I realized that there was nobody else. Nobody in Wisconsin doing this, and you know, every time this guy came up from Illinois is charging like a travel fee which is good for him. You know he has to, you know, travel a few hours. But I thought people needed this in Wisconsin. So it was my background. And you know, medical physics and building. And I just love to be like an active person and helping people. I’m really into like general health and wellness, I thought, well, this is like a perfect thing for me to do.
Dr. Deb Muth06:02Old? Was your house at that point.
Courtney Jarman06:05What’s that?
Dr. Deb Muth06:06How old was your house at that point.
Courtney Jarman06:08Like 2 and a half years old.
Dr. Deb Muth06:10Oh, my gosh! So you know that that is the mystery. Right? We treat a lot of patients, too, and they’ll say I have a brand new house. It’s 3 or 4 years old, and they don’t realize that those wood beams, the logs, all the building materials sit out all summer, or sometimes all winter, and they get wet, and when the contractors come in they put it up.and if it’s damp or moist they still put Drywall over the top of it. And this is a lot of times how we end up with mold behind the walls that we don’t recognize. It’s not always a damage that comes in most of the time it is, but sometimes it’s not, and this is how our brand new houses can still be sick buildings.
Courtney Jarman06:49Yeah. And that’s a big, that’s a good point about closing in the walls when they’re wet, which actually, I was very picky about our walls being super dry, and it’s sometimes the interior building materials like you don’t know what happened in the factory, you know, when you get into this. You just hear stories. I’m sure you hear stories and stories, you know, like, how could my house have mold in it? And I was recently in a house that was 7 years old. They’ve never had any water damagethat they know of, like none. It’s just like, you know, it’s perfectly dry. And they did an Ermi test because they actually got a blood test for Mycotoxins. It was a urine or blood test.
Dr. Deb Muth07:24Hmm.
Courtney Jarman07:25This lady’s an Md. So she recognized it, and her daughter got the test, and it came back really high for Mycotoxin. So they did an Ermi test which is like the whole house test. It was.
Dr. Deb Muth07:34J.
Courtney Jarman07:34Super hot this off the charts just off the charts, you know, so it’s like aI didn’t have a motion, you know, to come in and sterilize it. Essentially.Yeah, there’s nothing wet you gotta take out. There’s nothing really. You have to fix.So. And so we should talk about how mold works in a building right? Because people when they think about mold, they’re like, Oh, there’s some visible mold, or like the house is dry. And this was like, I was confused on this for a long time.So basically, once you have mold you have spores, it’s spores are like the seed of the mold. Essentially it sends out the spores various times, not always. But then those spores mix into your house’s dust, your house’s air. They get into your house’s building materials, and they’re very, very small submicron, I think, like, between like 300,000 and 1 million can fit on the head of a PIN, you know. So they’rethey can be everywhere. And then, you know, you essentially, when you have a whole house problem eventually, because you have little pockets here, little pockets there, a little thing here. And so your spore level just goes up and up and up. And once you deal with these spores they’re not going to go down. So that’s kind of like the premise for the technology. Instead of, you know, ripping out little spot treatments here, cleaning this cleaning that we deal with the spore level and the whole mold level in the house.So that’s you know that was what that was what was confusing to me. When Iinto this and dormant mold, even though it’s dry, dormant mold, you know, it’s basically it can last for thousands of years those right? And so you breathe that in it finds moisture in your body. It finds moisture in your dishwasher. It finds moisture. You can’t even see it a lot of times.So.
Dr. Deb Muth09:05It’s so hard, you know, so many of these building materials, too. For a while we had contaminated Osp back in the early 2 thousands that came in from overseas, and people would put Osp up in their house and not know that it was contaminated with mold spores. So when we worry about how we get some of this. We don’t always know what comes in. I love the analogy that you’re giving. You know, we can cut things out. We can put holes in walls, we can dig for things, we can find things.but we’re still not eliminating the mold spores, and if those mold spores are still there, dead or alive, they can still make us sick.So can you talk a little bit about your dry tech techno...
