Let's Talk Wellness Now
Dr. Deb 0:01
Welcome to Let’s Talk wellness now. I’m your host, Dr Deb Muth, and today we’re diving into one of my favorite healing tools, infrared sauna therapy and how it’s transforming detox, longevity and recovery. If you’ve ever struggled with fatigue, brain fog or stubborn inflammation. You’ve probably heard me talk about how toxins can overload your body systems, but what if you could accelerate your healing, improve circulation and support your mitochondria, all while still sitting in a warm, peaceful environment that feels like self care instead of like a treatment. My guest today, Tiffany Dubeck, from health tech sauna, is here to help us understand how this powerful technology works and why not all Infrared Saunas are created equal. We’ll talk about the science behind full spectrum infrared therapy, why detoxing through skin is one of the safest, most effective ways to reduce toxic burden, how to choose the right sauna for your home or practice, and how you can use this therapy to support longevity hormones and brain health. So grab a cup of tea, settle in, and let’s explore how heat can heal with Tiffany Dubeck from Health Tech saunas, Tiffany, Welcome to Let’s Talk wellness now. Can you start sharing a little bit about your background, how you got involved with health tech sauna,
Tiffany Dubeck 1:34
working with high tech health I’m part of the Science Advisory Board, medical advisory board here, and we, you know, we’re very research based company, and it’s just perfectly in alignment with what I love to talk about, what I love to educate about, what I believe in. You know, the natural healing capability of the body and the Saunas are, yeah, just perfect for that. So I head up the practitioner program here, I like to educate our customers with the sauna usage. We do a lot with the science and the data. And, yeah, it’s, it’s amazing. It’s the best company out there. So
Dr. Deb 2:12
that’s, I love the health of tech sauna. I’ve had one for well over Oh, I’m going to age myself probably two decades, at least 20 years, and I love my sauna. I’ve never had a problem with it ever. That’s what makes it so awesome, and it’s so easy to put together.
Tiffany Dubeck 2:29
Yes, I know. And you know, a lot of people, I didn’t even realize this when I got into practice, how easy it is to incorporate an infrared sauna into your home. I you know, I would just use it at the gym, or there was different, you know, health facilities I would go to, but, yeah, I didn’t even think of having it in my home till I was like, you know, actively in my own practice, and, and educating people about that. And, and, yeah, and I love, love it. It’s so convenient. It’s amazing. Doesn’t use up a lot of electricity, and you’re able to be more consistent with it, so then you can get all those wonderful benefits.
Dr. Deb 3:09
Absolutely. You know, for those who’ve never experienced it, what exactly is an infrared sauna, and how does it differ from a traditional sauna?
Tiffany Dubeck 3:19
Good question. Yeah. People are very familiar with the traditional saunas, the finished style saunas. It’s different because it uses a different method of heat delivery. So traditional saunas will use convection. It’s relying upon the air temperature to get really, really hot, so anywhere between 170 usually 200
Dr. Deb 3:43
degrees, like our oven, like a convection, like our oven, right?
Tiffany Dubeck 3:49
Exactly, yep. And then that’s going to indirectly heat the body, raising the core body temperature, and then you get those healing benefits with an infrared it’s unique because it has a direct method of heat. It uses radiant heat, and it has the ability to directly penetrate, interact with the water molecules, raise our core body temperature, and then leads to all of those benefits. So it’s a wavelength from the sun, right? We get it from the sun, the wonderful healing light from the sun. This is invisible, but we experience it as heat. So if you go outside on a cold day, but the sun is out, the warmth that you feel on your skin, that’s the infrared, and it I like to use the comparison, like if you’re outside on a really hot summer day, and it’s 100 degrees outside, and you go in the shade, that’s like a traditional sauna. If you step out into the sun, that is infrared, right? And you experience it as a lot it’s a lot hotter, um. You get those benefits faster. Core body temperature is raising quicker and but you’re able to use them in the sauna at much lower temperatures to get those same benefits. So radiant heat, it accounts for about 50 or 60 degrees. So if you’re using the infrared sauna at 130 it’s pretty comparable to a traditional sauna at, you know, 171
Unknown Speaker 5:25
80 degrees.
Dr. Deb 5:27
That’s a huge difference. I love that the the room temperature in the sauna doesn’t get that hot, like you can be in there at 140 degrees, and it doesn’t feel that hot. And if it does get a little warm, you just kick the door open just a smidge, let a little bit of cool air come in to calm the temperature down a little bit so you can tolerate it, but it’s still completely penetrating your body. And I
Tiffany Dubeck 5:50
love that, yes, and you’re getting that infrared exposure within two minutes of starting your sauna. So some people like to get it in right away. We recommend heating it up to around 100 degrees and then getting in it’s you use it differently as well than a traditional sauna, but yeah, so much more comfortable. You’re not your lungs aren’t feeling all that heat and feeling very uncomfortable. I love to crack my door open to every once in a while, but we have a unique feature in our saunas, the active ventilation, the fresh air fan. So when you’re using that, it’s decreasing the carbon dioxide build up by 46% and it’s really eliminating those symptoms of feeling stuffy or claustrophobic that you usually get in the sauna. So again, it’s just however it’s like to make it more comfortable and however people can use it more consistently to get those long term benefits that are associated with sauna therapy.
Dr. Deb 6:48
Yeah, I love that. Can you explain? How does the infrared light support the actual detox pathway on a cellular level?
Unknown Speaker 6:56
Yeah, great question too.
Tiffany Dubeck 7:00
It uses has the unique ability to mobilize toxins out of the fat cells and directly out of the body. So you’re going to get a lot of, you know, cellular health benefits. That way, you’re removing a huge toxic load out of the body. It’s very effective for that. And I think, you know, really just raising the core body temperature is going to create some physiological adaptations in the body. When you use your sauna, consistently, over time, you’re going to become more heat acclimated, and then you’ll get the production of what’s called Heat Shock proteins. And these are like the special helper proteins in our body. They decline with age, and when you use sauna, you’re getting more of a production of them. And they’re, they’re going to go in and repair and fix any damage to the cell, so, so that it can’t lead to, you know, so it doesn’t lead to disease. So you get, yeah, using your sauna more consistently, you’re getting that, that great protection for your cells by heat shock protein production. One of the
Dr. Deb 8:08
things a lot of our clients ask is, what happens to me if I go in the sauna and I don’t really sweat?
Tiffany Dubeck 8:16
Yes, so that’s one of the other things. That’s one of the we have that happen a lot a lot of people don’t sweat easily, or they have a really high toxic load in their body, so it takes time, and that’s again, associated with becoming heat acclimated. So that happens by using the sauna consistently, you know, repetitively, over time, and one of those adaptations that happen, the changes in the body that leads to the benefits, are sweating more and at lower temperatures. So when you become heat acclimated, you will notice you will sweat more as the body becomes more efficient at cooling itself down. So it takes time. You know, some people have a condition, I guess, where they aren’t able to sweat, and those we usually don’t recommend, you know, in a sauna, or you work with the healthcare practitioner to address the root cause of that. But for general population, being consistent in your usage, you will notice you’ll be more effective at detoxing, and then you’re getting that huge load of, you know, the heavy metals, the arsenic, the mercury, cadmium, lead, a lot of the phthalates that we’re exposed to, the plasticizers,
Unknown Speaker 9:34
persistent organic pollutants. I mean, all the things, right?
Dr. Deb 9:37
85,000 chemicals that we can count to date, right?
Tiffany Dubeck 9:42
I think the EPA reported there’s like 20,000 of those that can’t be really readily eliminated from our body, because we don’t have those efficient like the detox pathways for them, so they just linger in our cells, mostly in our fat tissues, right? And that’s why Saunas are so great. Because they mobilize the toxins out of the fat cell, out of the body, and there’s data that shows where they tested that right? The bus studies, I don’t know if you’ve heard of that, the blood, urine and sweat studies, and there will be really high measurable levels of those heavy metals and toxins in the sweat that don’t show up in blood or urine. So sweating is extremely effective, and I should say to passive sweating through like the infrared sauna, because you’re not using you’re not making the byproducts of like that. You wouldn’t use it or make an exercise. So it’s even more effective at ridding the body of that high toxic ...