Mark Nepo on How the Words You Choose Shape the Life You Live

Mark Nepo on How the Words You Choose Shape the Life You Live

Author: Hoda Kotb, TODAY July 22, 2026 Duration: 45:09
Most people spend their lives trying not to feel broken, but poet and spiritual philosopher Mark Nepo believes that breaking is actually where life begins. In this deeply moving conversation from Making Space, the New York Times bestselling author of The Book of Awakening sits down with Hoda Kotb to pull back the curtain on how we can stay open, even when we are hurting, overwhelmed, or just trying to get through the day. Mark reflects on the wisdom he gained from his own life threatening cancer diagnosis and a debilitating back surgery, sharing how he learned to ground himself in the present when fear threatened to take over. He and Hoda explore his newest book, The Language of the Soul, discussing why the words we choose matter in a world that often feels divided.

In a world that often feels full, the act of creating room-for reflection, for change, for breath-is a radical kind of strength. That’s the quiet heart of Making Space with Hoda Kotb. Here, Hoda moves beyond the morning show desk to engage in a different kind of conversation, one focused on the resilience and compassion that shape a meaningful life. Each episode is built around a simple, powerful question: where do you draw your strength? The answers unfold through intimate dialogues with people from all walks of life whose stories Hoda genuinely admires. These aren't interviews about achievement, but testimonies about human experience. Listeners will hear how others have navigated personal challenges, found unexpected joy, or rebuilt after loss, extracting practical lessons on making space for whatever you might be seeking right now-be it better mental health, a new fitness goal, a cultural perspective, or simply a moment of peace. The tone is warm, curious, and deeply personal, as if you're listening in on a conversation between friends who aren't afraid of the big topics. This podcast lives at the intersection of society, culture, and self-improvement, but it feels like a personal guide. You won't find quick fixes or loud promises here. Instead, you'll find a steady companion for your own journey, leaving each talk feeling subtly stronger and inspired to carve out your own space for growth. It’s a reminder that making space isn't about adding more, but about uncovering what was already there, waiting for room to breathe.
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