Episode 10: Team Topologies on Relieving Mental Pressure on Teams

Episode 10: Team Topologies on Relieving Mental Pressure on Teams

Author: Dr. Mik Kersten: Author of Project to Product and Founder and CEO of Tasktop June 16, 2020 Duration: 24:02
Recorded at the 2019 annual SEACON conference in London, Mik has two special guests, Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais, authors of Team Topologies: Organizing Business and Technology Teams for Fast Flow. This episode of Mik + One discusses: Insights into the patterns and anti-patterns of how teams are structured and evolve, and why it’s important to focus on the cognitive load of teams Team specialization, the need for platform teams and how to manage the crucial dependencies between teams The need for a product value stream that’s supported by multiple teams, and the importance of flow in an organization’s software systems architecture Learnings on how to successfully organize teams of teams and if there is a perfect number of team members for an organization Advice for organizations on how to successfully structure teams based on cognitive load Subscribe to the Mik + One podcast today so you never miss an episode and don’t forget to leave your review. Follow Mik on Twitter: @mik_kersten #MikPlusOnewww.tasktop.com For more information about Manuel Pais and Matthew Skelton, to view the full list of resources featured in this episode, and to download the episode transcript, visit:https://projecttoproduct.org/podcast/team-topologies/

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