Season 6 Ep 4: Navigating a "Stretchy" Year with Vangile Makwakwa

Season 6 Ep 4: Navigating a "Stretchy" Year with Vangile Makwakwa

Author: Lisa Kuzman September 23, 2021 Duration: 1:01:21

This is a longer interview than usual, but I have a feeling you're going to love every minute of it — I know I sure did! My guest this week is Vangile Makwakwa, who helps women of color heal ancestral money trauma so they can fall in love with their bank accounts, increase income and live their best lives. She's an author, an avid traveler, and the host of multiple podcasts: the Property Magicians Podcast, and the Money Magic Podcast. And thanks to the magic of the internet, she was able to join me from all the way in South Africa!

We had so much to talk about, including:

  • What went on for Vangile behind the scenes over the past year
  • Constant embodiment and self-care, in business and beyond
  • Power, integrity, and the divine guidance to return to yourself
  • Respecting and honoring NO — as well as the all-in YES!

"What I noticed about being coached through objections is that sometimes people will coach you to override your soul messaging. They'll make you believe that they know more about your business than you do. This is why I'm also really adamant about telling people, I cannot tell you what your strategy will be. What I can do is hold the space for you to determine what feels right for you, what feels right in your body."

Vangile, thank you so much for joining me on the podcast and having such a lively, deep conversation. Want more from Vangile? Find her on Twitter and Instagram under @vangilemakwakwa, and on search for Wealthy Money on Facebook. She also has an abundance of free resources, including her podcasts, over at wealthy-money.com.

And as always, if you want to connect with me, you've got options! Send your podcast questions and topic requests to podcast@lisakuzman.com, or head over to https://lisakuzman.com/ to book a call for a one-on-one jam sesh. You can also join my trauma sensitive leadership group here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/764082764458292/


There's a quiet shift happening in how we think about authority and influence, and New Wave Leadership Podcast is right at the heart of it. Host Lisa Kuzman believes traditional, top-down leadership models have run their course, proving ineffective for today's complex world. Instead, this movement champions a much broader, more inclusive vision. Each episode digs into the real, often unspoken challenges that come with stepping into a role of influence, whether you're in a corner office, a community group, or simply leading your own life. The conversations here actively work to expand our definition of who gets to be a leader, arguing passionately for the necessity of diverse identities, perspectives, and lived experiences at the helm. You'll hear frank discussions about authenticity, the personal hurdles leaders navigate behind closed doors, and practical ideas for cultivating your own unique leadership identity without conforming to outdated standards. Tuning into this podcast feels like joining a necessary dialogue-one that moves beyond theory to explore what it genuinely means to show up and make an impact on your own terms.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 100

New Wave Leadership Podcast
Podcast Episodes
Season 6 Ep 19: Looking Ahead to December, 2022, and Beyond [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 21:16
Well, here we are — the end of season 6, and the last podcast episode that I'll release in 2021. And if you've been tuning in all along, you know that as much as I love making this podcast, interviewing every single gues…
Season 6 Ep 17: When Should You Ignore Your Internal Resistance? [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 11:59
If you tuned in to last week's teaching episode, you already know that I'm training for my first FULL marathon — and I'm pumped! But obviously, it's November, and in my neck of the woods, that means cold weather. Plus, t…
Season 6 Ep 16: Mickey MacKaben on Staying Open to Your True Nature [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 51:36
My guest today is Mickey MacKaben, a healing artist, visual channel, and creative coach. Mickey has been curious and creative ever since she was a tiny human, and let me tell you — her curiosity and creativity comes thro…
Season 6 Ep 15: Reflection, Expansion, and Celebrating Yourself [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 19:17
For the past few teaching episodes this season, I've talked a lot about my personal development journey over the last decade. Every day, it becomes clearer and clearer to me that it is so important for me to acknowledge…
Season 6 Ep 14: Step Into Your Financial Truth with Megan Hale [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 53:28
Does talking about money make you feel uncomfortable? Do you carry guilt around your ability to make money... or maybe shame about wanting to make more? If so, you DEFINITELY need to tune into today's episode with Megan…
Season 6 Ep 13: Diving Into the Deep End of Personal Development [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 19:29
Today I wanted to expand on the ten year journey I talked about last Monday. Because let's be real: it's one thing to compare where I am right now to where I was ten years ago, but what about the time in between? It was…
Season 6 Ep 12: Fearless Transgenerational Healing with Leah Ardent [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 50:38
My guest this week is Leah Ardent, and I cannot WAIT for you to hear our conversation! Born with business in her blood, Leah is a brand visionary and co-founder of the world's first (and only) actualization agency. (That…
Season 6 Ep 11: Making the Case for Taking Your Time [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 15:56
This week, I want to tell you about a beautiful moment I had at the top of a mountain waterfall. But first — let's rewind to where I was at ten years ago. I knew I was terribly misaligned. I knew it was time to actively…
Season 6 Ep 10: Kelly Whinnem on Being Heard and Taking the Win [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:16:26
My guest today is Kelly Whinnem, and I'm thrilled to announce that this episode is her official podcast debut... sort of. While it's her first time on this side of the mic, over the last five years, Kelly has helped doze…