3. Kerwin Charles: “One Does Not Know Where an Insight Will Come From”

3. Kerwin Charles: “One Does Not Know Where an Insight Will Come From”

Author: Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher January 17, 2026 Duration: 39:29
The dean of Yale’s School of Management grew up in a small village in Guyana. During his unlikely journey, he has researched video-gaming habits, communicable disease, and why so many African-Americans haven’t had the kind of success he’s had. Steve Levitt talks to Charles about his parents’ encouragement, his love of Sports Illustrated, and how he talks to his American-born kids about the complicated history of Blackness in America. This episode originally aired on September 18th, 2020.

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160. How to Help Kids Succeed [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:00:09
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159. Robin Wall Kimmerer’s Manifesto for a Gift Economy [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 57:16
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158. Why Did Rome Fall — and Are We Next? [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

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157. The Deadliest Disease in Human History [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:05:19
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Abraham Verghese Thinks Medicine Can Do Better (Update) [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 46:59
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Duration: 59:24
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155. Helping People Die [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 54:57
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