Rethinking Leadership Development with Jessica Lee

Rethinking Leadership Development with Jessica Lee

Author: People Soup April 2, 2025 Duration: 43:38

Hi there and a very warm welcome to Season 6 Episode 19 of People Soup, it's Ross McIntosh here.

P-Soupers - In this episode I continue my chat with Jessica Lee. Jess is a chartered organizational psychologist and accredited coach with over 20 years of experience across a range of industries including Fast Moving Consumer Goods, aviation and music. Jess' People Soup ingredients are curiosity, flexibility and exploration with a side order of passion , fun and making an impact.  

In this episode, we explore the complexities of leadership and leadership development, emphasizing the significance of understanding leadership as a sophisticated profession. We discuss challenges such as the expectations placed on new leaders, the reluctance of younger generations to step into leadership roles, and pervasive issues such as burnout and imposter syndrome. We propose a shift towards human-centered leadership, focusing on self-leadership, self-awareness, and emotional flexibility as foundational elements before advancing to specialized skills in leading others. By integrating inner work and contextual understanding, we advocate for a more authentic, personalized approach to leadership development that is aligned with organizational needs and individual authenticity.

For those of you who are new to People Soup - welcome - it's great to have you here - I aim to provide you with ingredients for a better work life from behavioural science and beyond. For those of you who are regular P Soupers - thanks for tuning in - we love it that you're part of our community.

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Ever wonder why we do the things we do, especially at work or when trying to lead others? People Soup digs into that question, but it doesn’t stop at theory. Each episode is built on a foundation of behavioural science, which means you’ll get more than just interesting stories-you’ll get a clearer understanding of the human ingredients that make up our daily interactions. The conversations here feel real and unscripted, often touching on the messy, rewarding, and sometimes frustrating experience of simply being human. You’ll find that this podcast operates at the intersection of our professional ambitions and our personal well-being, exploring how they influence each other in ways we might not immediately see. It’s for anyone who has left a meeting baffled by a colleague’s reaction, struggled to motivate a team, or just wanted to navigate their own goals with a bit more clarity and less friction. The ideas discussed are deliberately practical, designed to be used almost immediately, whether you’re looking to improve a process, a relationship, or your own mindset. Tune in for a blend of thoughtful analysis and actionable insight that aims to make the complex recipe of human behaviour a little easier to understand and work with.
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