Inside a Scientology e-meter auditing session, with Chris Shelton

Inside a Scientology e-meter auditing session, with Chris Shelton

Author: Zachary Elwood August 2, 2026 Duration: 1:29:20
Former Scientologist Chris Shelton spent thousands of hours using the e-meter to "audit" fellow members of the Church—but what does the device actually measure, and why do Scientologists trust it as an infallible guide to the truth? Chris takes us inside a typical auditing session, explaining the personal questions auditors ask, the needle movements they watch for, and what they believe those reactions reveal. We compare the e-meter with the polygraph, explore how relentless questioning can produce false memories and confessions, and examine how auditors can sincerely believe they are helping even when their methods become coercive or abusive. If you’re interested in Scientology, interrogation, or behavior reading, this is a fascinating look at how a simple machine can acquire enormous power through belief. For more on this topic, check out Chris’s podcast Speaking of Cults. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ever wonder what a professional poker player notices about your tells, or how an FBI interrogator knows when someone’s lying? People Who Read People: A Behavior and Psychology Podcast digs into these questions through conversations with a fascinating array of experts. Host Zachary Elwood sits down with people whose jobs depend on accurately interpreting others-from jury consultants and behavior researchers to sports analysts and deception detection professionals. Each episode pulls back the curtain on the practical frameworks these individuals use to make sense of why we act the way we do, moving beyond textbook theory into the messy, applied reality of human interaction. With over 135 episodes in the archive, this podcast offers a deep and varied library exploring the subtle signals, hidden motivations, and cognitive patterns that drive our daily lives. You’ll hear specific stories and case studies that reveal how understanding behavior plays out in high-stakes courtrooms, strategic games, and everyday relationships. It’s for anyone curious about the mechanics of social dynamics, self-awareness, and the art of observation. Elwood’s grounded, interview-led approach makes complex psychological concepts accessible and immediately relevant, building a resource that feels both insightful and genuinely useful.
Author: Language: en-us Episodes: 50

People Who Read People: A Behavior and Psychology Podcast
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Duration: 1:28:42
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Duration: 1:00:02
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Can computers detect lies better than humans?, with Bennett Kleinberg [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:00:47
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Inside a Scientology e-meter auditing session, with Chris Shelton [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:23:35
Former Scientologist Chris Shelton spent thousands of hours using the e-meter to "audit" fellow members of the Church—but what does the device actually measure, and why do Scientologists trust it as an infallible guide t…
How Pete Blair scored 100% in a deception detection study [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:03:56
In a 2014 deception detection study, Pete Blair made 33 judgments—and got all 33 right. That paper was titled “Expertise in deception detection involves actively prompting diagnostic information rather than passive behav…
How Pete Blair scored 100% in a deception detection study [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:08:56
In a 2014 deception detection study, Pete Blair made 33 judgments—and got all 33 right. That paper was titled “Expertise in deception detection involves actively prompting diagnostic information rather than passive behav…
Behaviorally, poker and interrogations are very different [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 49:32
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Behaviorally, poker and interrogations are very different [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 54:16
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Understanding defenses of the polygraph, with David Goldberg [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:19:50
Polygraphs are a controversial tool in criminal investigations: critics argue they're too unreliable to trust, while proponents say that, even if they’re not perfect, they nonetheless can play a valuable role in helping…
Understanding defenses of the polygraph, with David Goldberg [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:25:35
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