The split personality disorder plaguing many brands - Interview with Ping Wu of Cresta

The split personality disorder plaguing many brands - Interview with Ping Wu of Cresta

Author: Adrian Swinscoe | Customer Experience Strategy Expert February 26, 2026 Duration: 42:30

Today’s episode features a chat I had recently with Ping Wu, CEO of Cresta. We chat about a range of issues, including how many brands seem to be suffering from a split personality disorder, why CRM technology is fundamentally not the right type of technology to develop the type of conversational intelligence that is needed to drive better outcomes and why taking an automation-only approach to customer support is like ‘taking a shower with a raincoat on.’

This interview follows on from my recent interview – Transforming experience for business outcomes – Interview with Sid Banerjee, Mike Murchison and Paloma Paraja – and is number 575 in the series of interviews with authors and business leaders who are doing great things, providing valuable insights, helping businesses innovate and delivering great service and experience to both their customers and their employees.


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