Ruined By The Internet? | Uncovering the human cost of our digital world
The internet promised to empower artists and give listeners infinite choice. But has it instead turned music into a disposable commodity - replacing human curation with algorithms, and making it virtually impossible for most artists to earn a sustainable living?
We're joined by Charlie Hooper-Williams - critically acclaimed composer, pianist, creative coder, and one of the developers behind music identification app Shazam - whose new album The Book of Fixed Stars is out now on The Way Beyond Music. He's seen the music industry's digital transformation from both sides, and understands better than most what's been lost and what's still possible.
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In this episode we investigate how streaming platforms devalued music while promising to democratise it, examine the TikTokification of music and what it's doing to artistic ambition, explore the role of algorithms in deciding what gets heard and what disappears, and ask whether AI is the final chapter in the story of music's commodification - or the beginning of something genuinely new.
00:00 - Introduction to Charlie's musical journey and digital transformation
01:31 - How digital technology changed everything about the music industry
02:33 - The TikTokification of music: what it means for artists and listeners
04:17 - The devaluation of music as an art form in a streaming world
05:32 - Streaming platforms: exposure versus earnings, and who really wins
08:06 - Spotify's role in reshaping the music industry
08:51 - The challenges of discoverability when algorithms control what gets heard
12:17 - How the artist-fan relationship has evolved, and what's been lost
17:52 - Technology's role in music creation and distribution today
20:04 - Navigating the modern music landscape as an independent artist
22:56 - Live performance in the age of technology: what still can't be replicated
25:46 - The role of algorithms and AI in music: creative tool or existential threat?
34:50 - The future of music in a digital age
40:46 - Advice for aspiring musicians trying to survive the internet economy
Guest links - Charlie Hooper-Williams
Website: http://charliehooperwilliams.com