How to Hire the Right People (Without Wasting Time or Money) with Madi Wagonner

How to Hire the Right People (Without Wasting Time or Money) with Madi Wagonner

Author: Aleasha Bahr October 9, 2025 Duration: 25:55
Hiring the right people shouldn’t feel like gambling with your time, money, and peace of mind. Yet for many founders, it often does. The problem isn’t a lack of good talent; it’s the absence of a clear and intentional structure behind the hiring process. Without it, even the most well-meaning entrepreneurs end up hiring reactively instead of strategically. In this episode of Sales is Not a Dirty Word, Aleasha Bahr sits down with Madi Wagonner, founder of Building Remote, to explore what it really takes to build a hiring system that consistently attracts self-driven, resourceful people who take ownership and contribute real value. Madi is known for helping entrepreneurs “fire themselves” from day-to-day operations so they can focus on higher-level leadership, growth, and the work that fuels them. Her approach to hiring and onboarding doesn’t just fill empty seats. It builds alignment, loyalty, and a shared sense of purpose that keeps teams performing long after the honeymoon phase ends. You’ll learn: ✔ Why most hiring failures happen before the first interview even begins ✔ How to write job descriptions that filter for the right people and naturally repel the wrong ones ✔ The 4–6 week hiring process that turns uncertainty into confident decision-making ✔ The onboarding method that creates motivation, ownership, and trust from day one ✔ How to recognize candidates who are resourceful, adaptable, and aligned with your company’s vision ✔ Why approaching hiring like a sales process helps you attract, not chase, top talent If you’ve ever felt drained by bad hires, or caught yourself thinking, “No one can do it like I do,” this conversation will challenge that mindset and give you a roadmap for doing it differently. With the right structure, you can build a team that not only supports your business but grows with it. 👉 Learn more from Madi Wagonner at buildingremote.co. It’s time to hire with clarity, lead with confidence, and build a business that thrives without burning you out.

Ever feel like the whole idea of "selling" makes your skin crawl? You're not alone, but what if everything you've been told about sales is wrong? Sales is NOT a Dirty Word is built on the idea that genuine connection, not manipulation, is the real engine of business growth. Host Aleasha Bahr, creator of the Matchmaker Sales method™, dismantles the high-pressure stereotypes one conversation at a time. Instead of scripts and tricks, she opens up her playbook, sharing insights and strategies typically reserved for her private coaching clients-where achieving an 80% conversion rate on sales calls isn't a fantasy, but a regular outcome. Each episode of this podcast features candid talks with experts who offer alternative, refreshingly human perspectives on the process. You'll hear real stories about building trust, understanding client needs deeply, and creating agreements that feel good for everyone involved. This isn't about learning to pretend; it's about discovering a framework where your authenticity becomes your greatest asset in closing deals. Tune in to transform your approach from something you dread into a natural, even enjoyable, part of your professional life.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 50

Sales is NOT a Dirty Word
Podcast Episodes
Sales Personalities Series Part 5: Chatty Charmer [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 10:26
I'm closing out our five part Sales Personalities series with the one I think gets misread the most: the Chatty Charmer. This is the person who has never met a stranger - they’re warm and easy to talk to. I could put a C…
Sales Personalities Series Part 4: Passionate Persuader [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 11:13
For decades, the passionate persuader was the only personality sales that most training was built for. This person is confident, direct and high energy. It’s usually the person everyone pictures the moment they hear the…
Sales Personalities Series Part. 3: Analytical Perfectionist [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 9:59
A DISC profile test looked my husband in the eye (well, on paper) and told him: you can never be in sales. Too quiet. Too detailed. Too precise. Too introverted. Not the loud, aggressive, "natural" closer type the test w…
Sales Personalities Series Part 2: The Inquisitive Educator [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 11:27
I've always asked a lot of questions. Sometimes people see it as curiosity. Sometimes they see it as overwhelming. Either way, it turns out that tendency became the foundation of my entire sales personality. In this new…
Sales Personalities Series Part. 1: Relationship Builders [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 9:50
You know the feeling. The conversation flowed effortlessly. You connected. You laughed. You found common ground. By the end, it felt like you were completely aligned. Then you followed up... and never heard from them aga…
Objection Handling Techniques That Build Trust [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 9:31
There’s a point in almost every sales conversation where the energy changes. A prospect hesitates or a concern comes up and most salespeople immediately move into persuasion mode. They reassure, justify and defend. Becau…
How to Handle Discount Conversations in Sales [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 9:54
Someone asked for a discount and suddenly your entire nervous system lit up. Do you hold the line? Negotiate? Cave? Risk losing the deal? That single moment exposes how most service providers really feel about their pric…
The Tiered Commission Structure Every Business Owner Needs to Know [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 12:47
There’s a question I hear more than almost any other from business owners: “How should I compensate my salesperson?” It sounds simple. It isn’t. Get it wrong early and you create a situation that’s hard to fix. You eithe…
How to Turn Sales Demos Into High-Converting Conversations [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 10:56
Most demos don’t fail because of the product. They fail because no real conversation ever took place. What should be a back-and-forth turns into a walkthrough. Feature after feature, then: “Does that make sense?” “Any qu…