“Just Go Test It”: Creating While Figuring It Out (with Chris Brown) | Ep. 4

“Just Go Test It”: Creating While Figuring It Out (with Chris Brown) | Ep. 4

Author: Trevor Grimes July 10, 2025 Duration: 32:28

What do cashflow, content, and Krispy Kreme have in common? According to Trevor Grimes and his longtime friend Chris Brown, more than you’d think. Chris, a solutions engineer at Trovata.io, helps companies understand where their money is—literally. But in this episode, he goes beyond bank accounts and into the messy, experimental journey of making content before you have it all figured out.

Trevor and Chris reflect on their early creative projects, lessons from Alex Hormozi and Gary Vee, and why cringey content is part of the process. They break down how to balance volume with authenticity, why capturing ideas matters more than polishing them, and what it means to keep showing up—even when the algorithm doesn’t care.

Listeners will walk away with permission to create something imperfect, refine it later, and build a body of work that actually means something.

👤 Guest Bio

Chris Brown is a Solutions Engineer at Trovata.io, a cash management platform that helps companies gain visibility across multiple banks. With a background in finance and a long history of experimenting with writing, freelancing, and creative side projects, Chris shares a rare blend of practical clarity and creative courage.

📌 What We Cover

  • Why “just testing it” matters more than finding your perfect why
  • How Chris helps companies like Krispy Kreme manage cash across dozens of banks
  • The tension between financial privacy and building trust through content
  • Why writing became Chris’s go-to format for processing and sharing ideas
  • How capturing your thoughts (not just publishing them) builds momentum
  • The underestimated power of showing up—accent, cringe, and all
  • Balancing full-time work and family life with sustainable content creation
  • Why expressing yourself matters, even if it’s just 7 minutes a day

🔗 Resources Mentioned

  • Trovata.io
  • The Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey
  • Gary Vaynerchuk
  • Alex Hormozi
  • The 4-Hour Workweek by Tim Ferriss

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There's a constant pressure to produce more, to follow every algorithm shift, and to mimic what seems to be working for everyone else. The Content Crowd steps away from that noise. Hosted by Trevor Grimes, this podcast is a conversation for anyone building a brand, an audience, or a creative practice who feels that chase is ultimately hollow. Instead of another list of quick tips, episodes delve into the substance behind sustainable work. You'll hear explorations of creative habits that last, storytelling approaches that actually resonate with people, and honest breakdowns of what goes into making content that means something. It’s for founders, marketers, and creators who believe that a more human-centered approach isn't just idealistic-it's effective. The discussions naturally span business strategy, the art of communication, and the practical education needed to execute ideas well. Tuning in means moving past the fatigue of empty output and finding a more thoughtful path to making things that connect.
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