ICYMI: Teaching While White

ICYMI: Teaching While White

Author: Andrew Lefkowits, Val Brown, Courtney Mykytyn January 11, 2023 Duration: 56:21
While we’re on break, we wanted to bring you an episode from the Teaching While White podcast that we really enjoyed. We’ve been following Teaching While White for a long time, and have appreciated their focus on the role of White teachers in creating equity driven spaces for students. Three quarters of teachers are White, and they have an important role to play in antiracism. In this episode, they speak with Dr. John Diamond, and Dr. Amanda Lewis about their book Despite the Best Intentions. We had Dr. Lewis on the podcast several years ago on our Brown v. Board series, and we’ve featured the book in our book club. It’s an incredible look at the difference between desegregation and true integration, and highlights the challenges of internal school segregation. Jenna and Elizabeth, the hosts of the Teaching While White Podcast, just released a book, called Learning and Teaching While White: Antiracist Strategies for School Communities. Follow the podcast wherever you get your podcasts, and buy the book! Enjoy, and we’ll be back soon with all new episodes! LINKS Teaching While White website (https://www.teachingwhilewhite.org/) Teaching While White Podcast (https://pod.link/1226251499) Learning and Teaching While White: Antiracist Strategies for School Communities (https://bookshop.org/a/18658/9781324016748) Drs. Diamond and Lewis – Despite the Best Intentions (https://bookshop.org/a/18658/9780190669829) Dr. Lewis’s episode on our show (https://integratedschools.org/podcast/s6e10-bvb67-amanda-lewis-revisited/) Use these links or start at our Bookshop.org storefront (https://bookshop.org/shop/IntegratedSchools) to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us. Join our Patreon (http://patreon.com/integratedschools) to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further. Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – @integratedschls (https://twitter.com/integratedschls) on twitter, IntegratedSchools (http://facebook.com/integratedschools) on Facebook, or email us podcast@integratedschools.org. We’re proud members of Connectd Podcasts, a network dedicated to helping shows like ours grow and thrive. For more info, or to check out their other amazing shows, head over to their website (http://connectdpodcasts.com/). The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits. This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits. Music by Kevin Casey. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

It’s easy to talk about school integration in the abstract, but what does it actually look like on the ground for families navigating these choices every day? The Integrated Schools Podcast moves beyond theory into the messy, personal realities of race, parenting, and educational equity. Hosted by Andrew Lefkowits, a White dad from Denver, and Val Brown, a Black mom from North Carolina, along with co-author Courtney Mykytyn, this podcast centers conversations that deliberately sit with discomfort and complexity. Each episode brings in voices from across the spectrum-parents making tough school decisions, educators in the trenches, researchers, and community organizers-to explore why our schools remain so segregated and what it truly means to work toward integration. You’ll hear candid stories about navigating predominantly white spaces, confronting personal bias, and the small, daily actions that either challenge or uphold systemic inequities. This isn’t a podcast offering easy answers; instead, it provides a necessary space to listen, reflect, and engage with the nuanced layers of a deeply entrenched issue. The dialogue here is built on the belief that honest, sometimes difficult talk is a prerequisite for meaningful change, both in our schools and in ourselves.
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