The Intersections of Disability, Race, and Segregation

The Intersections of Disability, Race, and Segregation

Author: Andrew Lefkowits, Val Brown, Courtney Mykytyn May 3, 2023 Duration: 1:23:17
We often talk about school segregation from a racial and /or class perspective, but an equally concerning issue is the segregation of kids based on dis/ability. And while many disabled students are marginalized by our educational system, it is particularly true for students of color. It’s an overdue conversation for us on the podcast, and it’s an important one, because, as the conversation makes clear, all forms of oppression are linked together, and destroying one will require them all to fall. We are joined for the conversation by Joyner Emrick, a disabled person with two disabled kids, and Shubha Balabaer, a non-disabled parent to a disabled toddler. They both offer insight and vulnerability about a subject that is often hard to talk about. From the choice for person or identity first language, to the medical vs social model of disability, the conversations lives in the nuance of a complicated topic. We try to ground ourselves in the disability justice movement and its dedication to dismantling systemic oppression. It is clear that the fight for disability rights is inextricably linked to the fight for social justice and equity for all. LINKS: Sins Invalid’s 10 Principals of Disability Justice - https://www.sinsinvalid.org/blog/10-principles-of-disability-justice Shelley Moore’s video about “the outside pins” - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYtUlU8MjlY Ableism Enables All Forms of Inequity and Hampers All Liberation Efforts– Truthout - https://truthout.org/articles/ableism-enables-all-forms-of-inequity-and-hampers-all-liberation-efforts/ Incarceration and Ableism Go Hand in Hand – Truthout - https://truthout.org/articles/incarceration-and-ableism-go-hand-in-hand-says-abolitionist-talila-lewis/ Dear Parents Who Want to Keep Their Nonspeaking Children Safe as They Go Out Into the World – Communication First - https://communicationfirst.org/dear-parents-who-want-to-keep-their-nonspeaking-children-safe-as-they-go-out-into-the-world/ A YouTube Playlist of “Lessons in Liberation” an abolitionist toolkit for preK- 12 education. - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYn1EYMdFkqkvDTUD2aLJZfxus2wJ6kjT Shubha’s incredible zine about their experience - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QJqEcm9K0aWkYCiWC0VerddLu9H3Tfs-/view An episode of Prentis Hemphill’s Finding our Way podcast called “Reclaiming Ugly” - https://www.findingourwaypodcast.com/individual-episodes/s2e4 An episode of the Groundings Podcast on ableism - https://groundings.simplecast.com/episodes/ableism More from Shelley Moore on “scaffolding complexity” - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j0oL1CNXAs PBS Educators series, The Circle Makers - https://ny.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/the-circle-makers-video/move-to-include/?fbclid=IwAR3lfGyuzDguY5iOuZPQ_l3ZhgpQoNEWvO1j9NB__ho1oMyOHO1ws58OBRE You’re Going to Love This Kid!: Teaching Students with Autism in the Inclusive Classroom – Paula Kluth on creating educational spaces that can include everyone - https://bookshop.org/a/18658/9781598570793 A helpful guide to person / identify first language from the NIH - https://www.nih.gov/about-nih/what-we-do/science-health-public-trust/perspectives/writing-respectfully-person-first-identity-first-language#:~:text=Identity%2Dfirst%20language%20options%20may,and%20take%20pride%20in%20it. A study on identity vs person first language from autism stakeholders - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36237135/ Disabled Activist, Imani Barbarin’s website - https://crutchesandspice.com/ Being Heumann: An Unrepentant Memoir of a Disability Rights Activist – Judy Heumann - https://bookshop.org/a/18658/9780807002803 Dr. Susan Faircloth on our show - https://integratedschools.org/podcast/faircloth/ ACTION STEPS: Normalize asking “What does your body need?” – the answer is never “nothing”, but it might be “all of my needs are being met right now”. Ask if disabled people are involved in the creation of services, curriculum, and other supports for disabled people. Make use of the resources in these show notes. Use these links or start at our Bookshop.org storefront to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us. - https://bookshop.org/shop/IntegratedSchools Join our Patreon to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further. - http://patreon.com/integratedschools Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – @integratedschls on twitter, IntegratedSchools on Facebook, or email us podcast@integratedschools.org. We’re proud members of Connectd Podcasts, a network dedicated to helping shows like ours grow and thrive. For more info, or to check out their other amazing shows, head over to their website. - http://connectdpodcasts.com/ The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits. This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits. Music by Kevin Casey. 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It’s easy to talk about school integration in the abstract, but what does it actually look like on the ground for families navigating these choices every day? The Integrated Schools Podcast moves beyond theory into the messy, personal realities of race, parenting, and educational equity. Hosted by Andrew Lefkowits, a White dad from Denver, and Val Brown, a Black mom from North Carolina, along with co-author Courtney Mykytyn, this podcast centers conversations that deliberately sit with discomfort and complexity. Each episode brings in voices from across the spectrum-parents making tough school decisions, educators in the trenches, researchers, and community organizers-to explore why our schools remain so segregated and what it truly means to work toward integration. You’ll hear candid stories about navigating predominantly white spaces, confronting personal bias, and the small, daily actions that either challenge or uphold systemic inequities. This isn’t a podcast offering easy answers; instead, it provides a necessary space to listen, reflect, and engage with the nuanced layers of a deeply entrenched issue. The dialogue here is built on the belief that honest, sometimes difficult talk is a prerequisite for meaningful change, both in our schools and in ourselves.
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