Lucy Carpenter on how our oceans are destroying ozone

Lucy Carpenter on how our oceans are destroying ozone

Author: BBC Radio 4 April 21, 2026 Duration: 28:23

Working on a remote tropical island in the Atlantic might sound like some sort of romantic idyll - but trying to conduct scientific research on a windy, isolated volanic outcrop is no picnic, as Lucy Carpenter can attest!

Lucy is an atmopsheric chemist and a Professor at the University of York, whose work has helped to transform understanding of how oceans shape the air above them. She was one of the founding scientists behind the Cape Verde Atmospheric Observatory, established on São Vicente in 2006 and now a key global monitoring site. Measurements made there helped overturn a long-standing assumption: ozone loss is not solely a human-made problem. Lucy and her colleagues showed that gases released by natural marine processes can trigger chemical reactions that destroy ozone - demonstrating that the sea is not simply a passive backdrop to climate change but an active participant; affecting aerosols, clouds and ultimately the climate itself.

More recently Lucy's expertise has taken her into the policy arena, co-chairing the scientific assessment panel for the Montreal Protocol: the international agreement designed to protect the ozone layer.

In conversation with Professor Jim Al-Khalili, Lucy dicusses her journey from sampling ocean air to turning the tide of global environmental policy - and explains why her passion for duathlons could arguably be seen as an easier pastime than scientific research.

Presented by Jim Al-Khalili Produced by Lucy Taylor A BBC Studios production


Hosted by physicist and author Professor Jim Al-Khalili, The Life Scientific offers a rare and intimate glimpse into the minds shaping our world. Each conversation moves beyond the standard lecture or interview, weaving together personal history with groundbreaking ideas. You’ll hear how childhood curiosity, unexpected setbacks, and moments of sheer luck have steered the careers of some of today's most influential researchers. This BBC Radio 4 podcast treats science not as a remote collection of facts, but as a deeply human endeavor driven by passion, perseverance, and sometimes, serendipity. The discussions delve into the real process of discovery-the late-night frustrations, the collaborative breakthroughs, and the ethical questions that arise from new knowledge. While exploring everything from the smallest particles to the vastness of the cosmos, the core of each episode remains the individual behind the science. Listeners come to understand not just what these scientists know, but who they are and what continues to drive them forward. It’s a series that connects the personal to the universal, making complex fields accessible and profoundly relevant. By focusing on the life as much as the science, this podcast reveals how our future is being built, one question at a time, in labs, field stations, and offices around the globe.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 50

The Life Scientific
Podcast Episodes
Raymond Schinazi on revolutionising treatments for killer viruses [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 28:39
In recent decades, we've taken huge steps forward in treating formerly fatal viruses: with pharmacological breakthroughs revolutionising treatment for conditions such as HIV, hepatitis and herpes. Raymond Schinazi has pl…
Janet Treasure on eating disorders and the quest for answers [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 28:36
From anorexia nervosa to binge-eating, eating disorders are potentially fatal conditions that are traditionally very difficult to diagnose and treat - not least because those affected often don’t recognise that there’s a…
Anne Child on Marfan syndrome and love at first sight [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 28:35
Marfan syndrome is a genetic disorder that makes renders the body’s connective tissues incredibly fragile; this can weaken the heart, leading to potentially fatal aneurysms. What’s more, anyone with the condition has a 5…
Conny Aerts on star vibrations and following your dreams [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 28:35
Many of us have heard of seismology, the study of earthquakes; but what about asteroseismology, focusing on vibrations in stars?Conny Aerts is a Professor of Astrophysics at the University of Leuven in Belgium - and a ch…
Mike Edmunds on decoding galaxies and ancient astronomical artefacts [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 32:42
What is the universe made of? Where does space dust come from? And how exactly might one go about putting on a one-man-show about Sir Isaac Newton? These are all questions that Mike Edmunds, Emeritus Professor of Astroph…
Hannah Critchlow on the connected brain [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 28:09
With 86 billion nerve cells joined together in a network of 100 trillion connections, the human brain is the most complex system in the known universe. Dr. Hannah Critchlow is an internationally acclaimed neuroscientist…