Retrospective 2: Investigations

Retrospective 2: Investigations

Author: Studio BOTH/AND July 9, 2026 Duration: 58:38
Retrospective 2 takes us to the origin of the investigation; where Josh's interest in storytelling evolved into his obsession of needing to know everything. And it started in a surprising place: a bound book of correspondence between two teenage girls and their landlord. What started as comedic found writing, became a mystery that people could not let go. And as Josh made his way through it, while working on TCB, he learned about investigations and their repercussions.

This is parts one and two of The Karen & Ellen Letters, Josh's first full-fledged investigation.

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Cast:
Sara Stapleton as Karen
Sara Kitcher as Ellen
Jeff Powell as Mark
Matt Peelen as Rob

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For nearly a decade, host Josh Hallmark has been immersed in the unsettling and complex case of one of America's most methodical serial killers. True Crime Bullsh**: The Israel Keyes Investigation is a deeply researched, serialized exploration that goes far beyond the headlines. This isn't a casual retelling; it's an active investigation. Hallmark meticulously combs through thousands of pages of FBI documents, pores over hours of interrogation footage, and collaborates with forensic experts and law enforcement to piece together a clearer picture of Keyes' movements and motives. The central, driving purpose of this podcast is to bring names and stories to the unidentified and missing individuals who may have crossed paths with Keyes. Listeners are taken along on that painstaking journey, hearing original audio evidence and following each new lead as it emerges. Produced by Studio BOTH/AND, the series unfolds like a documentary, offering a comprehensive and often chilling look into the investigative process itself. It’s a commitment to depth over sensation, focusing on the unanswered questions that still haunt this case years later.
Author: Language: English Episodes: 50

True Crime Bullsh**: The Israel Keyes Investigation
Podcast Episodes
Retrospective 1: The Ignition [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:25:34
To celebrate 10 years in podcasting, we're spending the summer going back in time and both highlighting key episodes and telling the stories behind them; you’ll get new behind-the-scenes information about what was happen…
The Butterfly Effect: Identifying the Does, one case at a time [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 24:04
Every year over 4,000 unidentified bodies are recovered in the United States. 600,000 people are reported as missing, and thousands more go unreported. The Butterfly Effect is an investigative podcast that seeks to reuni…
October 22, 2012: Part 2 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 46:57
In the second half of this interview, Keyes shares his thoughts on other serial killers like BTK, Ted Bundy, and The Green River Killer. Then he discusses his plans for the future, losing control, and how the facade of h…
October 22, 2012: Part 1 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:15:43
In this interview, Keyes discusses publicity and strategy, the impacts of his crimes on his family, searching for remains, the NY victim, lies he's told about his time in Texas, and serial killers he's read about and stu…
May 29, 2012 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 1:02:00
This is Keyes's first interview following his failed escape attempt from court. They discuss the Curriers, the NY victim, negotiating publicity, the boat, Washington jurisdictions, speculation, protecting his family, and…
0714 | Changes [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 43:15
Season finale.TCB will be back in October. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. With additional research by Michelle Tooker, Shana Wilensky, and Jordan Taylor.Sources include:• KAR…
0713 | Houston [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 46:07
The team returns to Texas to look at a case, which Jordan has been following for four years, that involves a suspicious death, an arson, and an abandoned house. And this case may just shed light on some of Keyes's odder…
0712 | Couples, Part 2 [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 39:15
A case the team has been looking into for over four years, makes its podcast debut; where a crime in an Israel Keyes hotspot eerily matches a chapter from one of his favorite books.This episode was written, researched, a…
0711 | Infrastructure [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 44:06
Josh and the team discuss how Israel Keyes used infrastructure maps to scout, hide and/or bury his caches and victims. This may just be the key to solving his crimes. This episode was written, researched, edited, and pro…
0710 | Undercurrent [not-audio_url] [/not-audio_url]

Duration: 37:55
Josh and team dissect various information and semantics surrounding Keyes's male-female couple. They circle back to Eugene Hyatt and Kami Vollendroff, and then deep-dive the disappearance of a Spokane couple. Then new in…