MCP Security, Framework Fatigue, and AI Agents with Will Johnson (Presented by CodeRabbit)

MCP Security, Framework Fatigue, and AI Agents with Will Johnson (Presented by CodeRabbit)

Author: Skill Issue Studios January 15, 2026 Duration: 45:43
This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Will Johnson—senior developer advocate at Auth0—about web dev, parenting, and internet culture. They debate whether CSS is a “real” programming language, riff on how modern frameworks can feel over-engineered, and dig into the security risks emerging around AI agents and MCP. Will shares what he’s been learning about MCP security, why he’s cautious with new tools, and how Auth0’s new AI agent offering helps manage identity, permissions, and token safety. Presented by CodeRabbit: http://coderabbit.link/whiskey In this episode: (00:00) - Intro (01:49) - Meet Will Johnson (02:19) - Whiskey rating & review: Jameson Triple Triple (07:13) - Hot Take: Git rebase vs git merge (09:42) - Parenting talk: kids, wrestling, and learning consequences (11:57) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language? (14:37) - What Will’s working on at Auth0 (AI + MCP security) (16:57) - The most interesting MCP-related hacks and security risks (18:27) - Can “skills” become an attack vector too? (19:47) - Security vulnerabilities, Next.js updates, and patching fatigue (20:48) - How Will’s family got into K-Pop Demon Hunters (25:51) - The Moana live-action trailer “looks like useEffect” (and why) (27:17) - Is React essentially processed American food? (27:58) - Sugar-free Oreos: what are we even doing here? (29:18) - Have we overcomplicated frontend development? (31:32) - Why Rails is the best-engineered dev experience Will has used (32:25) - How Auth0 teams are structured (35:47) - Passkeys explained (41:43) - Plugs and how to connect with Will (43:12) - How AI agents fit into auth Links Auth0: https://auth0.com/ Jameson Triple Triple: https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/en-us/our-whiskey/jameson-triple-triple/ Three Sheets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Sheets Jack Daniel's Reserve: https://www.jackdaniels.com/ Google Chrome: https://www.google.com/chrome/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript MCP: https://modelcontextprotocol.io/ Next.js: https://nextjs.org/ KPop Demon Hunters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KPop_Demon_Hunters Britney Spears: https://britneyspears.com/ NSYNC: https://nsync.com/ B2K: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B2K Chris Brown: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Brown Netflix: https://netflix.com Stanford University: https://www.stanford.edu/ Moana: https://movies.disney.com/moana Dak Prescott: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dak_Prescott React: https://react.dev/ Oreo: https://www.oreo.com/ jQuery: https://jquery.com/ Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/ ES6: https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.asp BlingBlingjs: https://github.com/argyleink/blingblingjs Astro: https://astro.build/ Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/ Laravel: https://laravel.com/ Egghead: https://egghead.io/ Grok: https://grok.com/ 1Password: https://1password.com/ Google Zanzibar: https://research.google/pubs/zanzibar-googles-consistent-global-authorization-system/ AWS: https://aws.amazon.com/ Netlify: https://www.netlify.com/ Pokemon Go: https://pokemongolive.com/ Connect with Will Website: https://auth0.com/ai X / Twitter: https://x.com/willjohnsonio Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

There's a certain alchemy that happens when you combine deep technical expertise with the warmth of a good conversation, and that's exactly what you'll find in Whiskey Web and Whatnot. Hosts Robbie Wagner, Charles William Carpenter III, and Adam Argyle bring decades of collective experience to the table, but they leave the lecture format at the door. Instead, each episode feels like pulling up a chair with colleagues who are just as passionate about the craft of building for the web as they are about the nuanced flavors in a glass of whiskey. The discussion naturally flows between the concrete details of modern development-like navigating JavaScript frameworks, CSS architecture, or the practical realities of agentic AI and new coding tools-and the broader, human aspects of a software engineering career. This podcast from Skill Issue Studios is built on the idea that the tools and the people who use them are equally important. You'll come for insightful, grounded advice on developer productivity and emerging technologies, but you'll stay for the genuine camaraderie and the occasional spirited debate about which whiskey bottle truly earns a spot on the shelf. It’s a refreshing blend of substance and personality, making complex topics accessible and reminding everyone that there's always a story behind the code.
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