Open Source, Agents, and the Next AI Wave w/ Angie Jones

Open Source, Agents, and the Next AI Wave w/ Angie Jones

Author: Skill Issue Studios November 6, 2025 Duration: 42:17

Recorded live at All Things Open, Robbie Wagner and guest co-host Jason Lengstorf talk with Angie Jones about AI, coding models, and the evolving landscape of open source. They unpack the importance of community-driven tooling, skill gaps in using AI, the future of agentic systems, and why open communities matter in shaping technology.

In this episode:

  • (00:00) - Intro
  • (01:18) - Wine rating & review
  • (03:30) - Hot Take: Claude vs ChatGPT
  • (04:20) - Hot Take: Is HTML a programming language?
  • (04:56) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language?
  • (05:31) - Hot Take: Is AI to blame when people do dumb shit with it?
  • (09:50) - How open source shaped Angie’s career
  • (14:54) - The problem with AI training on open source data
  • (23:02) - What is MCP and why does it matter?
  • (25:10) - Using MCP when you don’t follow every part of the spec
  • (26:25) - Are we building new walled gardens inside MCP?
  • (31:16) - Building DevRel in a rapidly-changing AI landscape
  • (36:06) - Conference season stress & preparing new talks
  • (39:41) - Where to find Angie online

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